Patent, how does it work?

[0l0dom0l0]

So, I've had an idea for something but it uses already found technology. The technology in question is the re-use able hand warmer pouches, the ones you click the little bit of metal and a chemical reaction sets off making them produce heat. I want to adapt the idea for something else.

How would I go about getting the rights to use this technology?

As an example, it's like me wanting to create a new type of hoover using the bag-less Dyson technology. In order to do that I would need to get the rights of Dyson to use their technology. How would I go about this?

Help is much appreciated
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[G]

Are you sure they're still in patent?

Seen a few different types of them around from plenty of different sources - ie ones for boots etc.

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Bru]

This site allows you to search for patents, although it is certainly not exhaustive:

https://gb.espacenet.com/search97cgi/s97_cgi.exe?Action=FormGen&Template=/gb/en/home.hts

With regard to your idea, apart from the obvious of not disclosing it publically, be aware that:

the idea must be novel, and not obvious (eg. 7-spoke alloys because you have never seen more than six...)

the application can be novel. Dyson did not invent the bagless technology - he took it from industrial separators (see his website). In this example, you would not need to licence the technology from Dyson, unless you attempted to build a vacuum cleaner (although I am sure they have attempted to close similar options).

An application is not expensive, but not guaranteed to be granted. Also, don't shoot your bolt too soon - if a patent is granted, and you are not prepared to exploit it, then that time is wasted.

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[Rogerborg]

Just do it. They'll only come after you if you're successful.
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[Frost]

Whatever it is make it, or do it. If it's successful them you can worry about negotiating payment. If it's a flop you've wasted no time. If it's successful but not profitable you can always lie about that and offer to sell the derivative invention to the holder of the original patent

[0l0dom0l0]

Some good thoughts here people thank you!

I've had a serious think about this and how I could create something in the long run. It's looking good .

I did post a reply but for some reason it hasn't worked. I've had a re-think and I'm going for an electrical heat instead as I don't think I'll get enough heat from the warmers.

That patent site is awsome. Best bit though, my ideas not on there .

Going to get cracking I think!
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