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Polarbear
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PostPosted: 04:31 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: A booring insurance question (and a cool story bro!) Reply with quote

A week a go I got off my ship, got back to Heathrow and picked up a hire car.

I had bought some wheels for my Alfa Romeo off ebay and decided to pick them up on my way home so hired an estate (VW Passat).

Got to Walatham Abbey and got the wheels then on my way pack to the M25 I was passing a digger in the road when it spun its bucket round and took out my front wing. In a digger v Passat road wars the digger always wins, lol.

Anyway phoned Avis, all they were interested in was whether I needed another car, I didn't. So got the insurance details (National Farmers Union Shocked ) and came home.

Now I had damage waiver so not bothered about that, but what happens when I come to renew my car and bike insurance. I presume I have to tell them. Do I lose my no claims even though I haven't claimed on my insurance?

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: 05:21 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nopes, you havent made a claim....
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah I wouldnt, its the hire companies insurance.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, as far as i know when you claim on sombodys insurance you do not loose your no claims its only when somebody claims on your insurance or you claim on yours.

correct me if im wrong.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how thew question is asked.

Some ask if you have had any claims or convictions, in which case you can answer no.

Some ask if you have had any accidents, claims or convictions in which case you must declare.

Some insurers word there questions carefully, or in the hope that they can catch some out, so make sure you read the question and answer honestly.

Although you may not have made a claim, if they ask if you have had any accidents and you answer no, it could open up a horrible can of worms further down the line.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Digger had admitted fault, even if on your insurance, it is still not a claim.

the term claim is where you ask for repairs due to an accident which was your fault OR the other road user done a runner / was un-insured.

If the digger caused the accident THEY are claiming, not you.

Regarding have you had any accidents / convictions / claims on forms, I am not to sure as you can argue that you were involved in an accident, you did not have an accident as such.

If you walk to your car in a car park and someone has driven into the side of your car you did NOT have an accident but you have to report repairs.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

teuma86 wrote:
If the Digger had admitted fault, even if on your insurance, it is still not a claim.

the term claim is where you ask for repairs due to an accident which was your fault OR the other road user done a runner / was un-insured.

If the digger caused the accident THEY are claiming, not you.

Regarding have you had any accidents / convictions / claims on forms, I am not to sure as you can argue that you were involved in an accident, you did not have an accident as such.

If you walk to your car in a car park and someone has driven into the side of your car you did NOT have an accident but you have to report repairs.


Incorrect slighty.. I have to claim for 11 accidents, although 0 were caused by me hitting another person, it was them hitting me.

To be honest, its a bit of a bastard claim as its a hire cars insurance. If it works the same as my company car insurance...then their insurers deal with it and you hear nothing and claim for nothing... unless you were injured.

All your claim details will show up when you go for insurance, and if you dont declare them they can and will cancel your insurance, then you have to tick another box saying have you ever had insuranced cancelled... its bites you in the arse Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
teuma86 wrote:
If the Digger had admitted fault, even if on your insurance, it is still not a claim.

the term claim is where you ask for repairs due to an accident which was your fault OR the other road user done a runner / was un-insured.

If the digger caused the accident THEY are claiming, not you.

Regarding have you had any accidents / convictions / claims on forms, I am not to sure as you can argue that you were involved in an accident, you did not have an accident as such.

If you walk to your car in a car park and someone has driven into the side of your car you did NOT have an accident but you have to report repairs.


Incorrect slighty.. I have to claim for 11 accidents, although 0 were caused by me hitting another person, it was them hitting me.

To be honest, its a bit of a bastard claim as its a hire cars insurance. If it works the same as my company car insurance...then their insurers deal with it and you hear nothing and claim for nothing... unless you were injured.

All your claim details will show up when you go for insurance, and if you dont declare them they can and will cancel your insurance, then you have to tick another box saying have you ever had insuranced cancelled... its bites you in the arse Laughing


but doesn't the term claim count if you are paying the excess. You can report an accident and get a repair on the other persons insurance but your don't lose your No Claims Bonus.

I have got 6 years NCB on the car and 3 years NCB on the bike.

2 people have hit my car, which have been repaired but I have not lost my NCB (without NCB Protection)
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

teuma86 wrote:
but doesn't the term claim count if you are paying the excess. You can report an accident and get a repair on the other persons insurance but your don't lose your No Claims Bonus.

I have got 6 years NCB on the car and 3 years NCB on the bike.

2 people have hit my car, which have been repaired but I have not lost my NCB (without NCB Protection)


I have never paid an excess.

You have to tell your insurers of all accidents if it says the word "accidents" regardless of fault...it does say was it your fault or not.

I've got 2 year NCB on the car and thats still there after a car pulling out in front of me and them cracking my bumper. Insurance didnt repair, they just gave me money.

Bikes have 1 year NCB on each policy I have had running... but agan, I still have to state i've claimed on any insurance at all, they cancelled my bikes policy as I didnt inform them of my first claim...wasn't my fault so didnt assume I had to.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not lose your no-claims but you HAVE to tell your insurance company about that accident.

When you check quotes for insurance it does say that should declare ANY accidents in the last five years, no matter what on, claimed for or not.
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