In this world of 'technicalities'...

andym · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Karma :

... Anyone think I would be able to appeal against my using a bus lane when I wasn't allowed on the grounds that cycles were allowed to use the lane and on my log book it clearly states that the vehicle is registered as a bicycle... as does the tax disc.

I need to either pay the £30 or send in the letter with my explanation of why I shouldn't have to pay.

Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

Google it. Or try Pepipoo, buy I'll be stunned if it hasn't already been tried.
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Livefast123 · Nearly there... Joined: 14 Mar 2010 Karma :

Go for it, whats the worst that can happen.....you have to pay £30.

Just so you are aware that vehicle classifications are different under the road traffic act than the vehicle excise act
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0ddball · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

Not a chance.
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andym · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Karma :

The thing is I'm a bus driver that uses the bus gate on a regular basis, and about 150 yards before where this 'crime' took place is a bus gate that allows everything through. At the point I got the ticket it clearly states buses and cycles only, but taxi's, police cars, vans, bikes, motorbikes and sometimes the occasional bus too.

I can't find the pictures of the actual ticket online, but only one of them shows me in the lane, and even at that I could have been going to park on the pavement or something

Chriss · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 May 2005 Karma :

Not a chance
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JP7 · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Karma :

Although its taxation class is "bicycle", a motorbike is defined as a "motor vehicle" under the Road Traffic Act.

Come what may, you were still in the bus lane. If it were me I would just pay the penalty rather than looking to sneak out of it on a technicality and risking it costing more when it goes wrong.

T.C · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

The actual classification is "Motor Bicycle" but only bicycle will fit on the tax disc.

You have no grounds for appeal if that is your only reason.

It has been tried many times and every time the appeal has been thrown out even to the point where it went to the High Court and it was agreed that stating bicycle on the tax disc is insufficient grounds because it is known that a motorcycle is a "Motor Bicycle" powered two wheeler, not a bycycle as in operated by pedals.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Pay the fine Rolling Eyes

That said, if you were say on an old pedal moped thingy... could you state you were pedalling and had the engine off? Laughing

multijoy · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Karma :

Challenge, challenge it hard! Dollars to doughnuts there'll be at least one thing wrong with the road markings, the camera operators statement, the certification of the cameras or the signage.

You may enjoy https://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tss/tsmanual/ as some bedtime reading.

(Also, £30? That's cheap! Come to London, it's double that even with the early payment discount!)
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