potential bike pic - ugly bellypan?

[firg]

hi, i am thinking of buying this varadero (i dont think the kid comes with it) :



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is it just me, or does that bellypan not match, or do you think its not noticable?

also, do you think £2400 is a good price or not? (this is the stated price before negotiation)

any help appreciated,

Loz

[craigT19]

that belly pan is definetly not colour matched............looks plastic and really really tacky £2400?? whats the age of the bike and the milage
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[firg]

18 months... dont know the milage, sorry.

he says it was his wifes who he was trying to get into biking, but she didnt like it. he rides the ducati.

[Milo]

the bike can't be more than 3 years old as i was looking at them when they'd just come out, about the same tiume i was getting my NSR.
At the time I liked the look and the comfort but i'd heard they struggle after 50mph. I'm guessing they'd do about 65 and are comfy economical mile-munchers as long as motorways aren't involved.

The bellypan's definitly a no-no for me but i'd definitly stick it back on come winter.

£2400 does seem a lot for a second hand 125, as I got my XJ900 for half of that. You would definitly find better value in another 125. I made the bad mistake of getting new NSR and selling it 6 months later and still paying for it now
Do you have any need for going on the motorway in the next couple of years? If so you may well find the bike restricting. It's more powerful than the NSR in standard form, and definitly sounds better.

Look through second hand bike sections, or pop into a dealer to ask what the "book price" would be for one to give you an idea of how much it is worth.

Adam

[firg]

well, a 2002 is £2250, at 4000miles....

arg, bandwidth overdone. plz wait whilst i get the pics up somewhere else....

[Will]

Hi,

I'd rather have the 749

Cheers,

Will

[G]

This is 'IMO' and not quite what you asked, but:
I wouldn't want to be paying more than about £600 for something like that, I don't see that it offers many advantages over a cg125, which can be picked up for a lot less.

Have a look at various bits in the submissions section to see variouis thoughts on buying new bikes.

[Demonic69]

I wouldn't waste your cash matey. nice if you intended to ride a 125 for another 10 years but you'll only end up losing a fair bit of money when you sell it in 9 months to upgrade.
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[firg]

im just talking to him on msn now....

he says its 1500 miles,
and the centrestand and bellypan is the official honda one..

[dainesefreak]

Seems a bit much to me, not a bad milage though. Depends what you want to do with it really and how long you are looking to keep it.

[firg]

well, just as a bike to learn on really. the problem is, is that im 6'4", 17 stone, and still only 16yrs old.

so ill need a big bike, and this is why i heavent gone for a 50cc already.

any thoughts?

[McJamweasel]

An old 125 trailie - KMX, DT etc. You'll be cramped on a sports 125, the trailies should be comfy enough to get you through your test.
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[dainesefreak]

I agree with McJam, a 125 trailie. Good seat hight and fairly easy to fix when you drop it.

[G]

[syris]

From what I remember the belly pan was just an optional accessory, seen it on the blue 125 varadero last year dont know whether its specifically meant to match that silver colour on the bike. Personally I don't think it looks all that bad.

[firg]

i was actuall looking to get a 4 stroke - i dont want to have the expensivenes of a 2 stroke, plus il always be really paranoid im gonna run out of oil....

how long do you think it is for most poeple from cbt to test?

also, about the cg125.... omg, i dont think ive seen an uglier bike..... if i was gonna ride something like that i mightaswell just get a car....

cheers,
Loz

[cagiva gezzer]

The belly pan is there to hide the piss small pipe.

Running costs - its a twin, therefore the running service costs will be 50-75% higher than a cg125 as there are twice as many valves and plugs that need attention.
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[firg]

hmm, having looked at my comment about the cg125, it seems a bit arrogant... sorry if it seemed so.

also, when i say a 4 stroke, i dont just mean the varad, i just mean them in general.

i wanted to ask you about the oil. how often do you have to fill up, and where can you get it from. also, how much does it usually cost?

finally, if you igonre extra power (it will have to be restrited to 15bhp anyway) what are the other adv/dis adv in 2 stroke vs 4 stroke?

[Kickstart]

[G]

[1cyl]

About the Belly pan, its not really that great, probably serves more purpose than mine though in that you can wipe the grit/mud/road kill off it, if i had the bike i would....well i wouldn't
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[firg]

sorry for the late reply everyone, but i've been a bit busy of late...

@ G,

i would like to get a bike over a car for a few of the following reasons: avoiding traffic, good fuel economy, thinking of moving to london for uni (congestion charging), and most of all... FUN! but seriously, this isn't just some whim i had one day, i have thought into this quite heavily. oh and another reason: cause i'm so tall, i find it very difficult to fit into cars (and as my first few will have to be small ones for insurance), so a bike seemed ideal in that respect.
also, when you say an ns125, do you mean the cagiva scooter or the madami dirt bike (or an entirely different one)?

i also have another question (for everyone):

am i right in thinking that if i were to get a provisional licence now (@16) and learn to ride a geared bike, come my 17th birthday, i could do the test on a 125, and instantly move up to a bigger bike (say a cb500 or something like that (restricted to 33bhp)) without having to ever buy a 125?

can this not be done, or do you advise against it?

cheers,

Loz

[Laura]

This is correct you could skip the 125 bike which is what I did and brought a old cbr600 you could get something like a gpz 500 etc etc .

laura
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[firg]

@ laura

do you suggest any particular 50cc bikes?

@G

or do you mean the really old honda ns125f?