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steven_191
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: headlights on clips ons? Reply with quote

i saw a bike with a twin set of headlights attached to the forks with clip ons like the handle bars on some bikes.

Is legal for MOT purposes?


also I liked the look of it but everytime you steer your lights will be all over the place?

just an idea for the project. Not sure on the beam moving around that much though
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will move as much as a headlight on most naked bikes, I don't really get what you are saying. Were the headlights actually on the clip ons? if not then it sounds exactly like any other standard set up on a naked bike....
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the bracket was mounted to the forks and the headlight to that bracket, meaning if you steer your light will move.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well as I said, that is the same set up on most naked bikes. So yes will be fine MOT wise and you don't really notice the light moving much. I guess if all you have ever ridden is faired bikes where everything is fixed then it might be weird, but you get used to it
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup. been ok for the last 100 years...
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was gonna rate op as funny but then i realised he was serious..lol
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't go that far, you learn by asking.... Wink
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm the few degrees motorcycle headlamps move with the steering is actually an advantage!

They have tried to get car headlamps to shift beam angle with the steering on numerouse occasions.... when you are going round a corner, you tend not to really want to iluminate the hedge right in front of you, but that dark patch to your left or right where you are going!

Its frame mounted head-lamps that are perverse, not handle-bar mounted ones!

Meanwhile, far more significant to what's lit up when you corner....

Headlamp chucks out a cone of light, normally angled down at the road...

To aid what's lit up, lense has grooving in the glass to diffuse the light and make the cone a tad more useful, and chuck more light down than up, and in the UK a bit more left (on Dip Beam) than right (So we see kurb, and dont dazzle oncoming drivers)

But when we steer, we also 'lean'!

Tilting lamp a few degrees to one or other side, is not a big difference, but rotating it, however much we lean, AND lowering it to the floor, depending on how far down we go?

Cone of light that in teh straight ahead position is lighting large chunk of road, fifty yards ahead of the bike, suddenly ti lighting, very brightly a patch of road to the oposite side we are turning, VERY much closer, due to drop in height.....

Actually turning the bars HELPS compensate for the shift in beam from leaning!
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its a phase 2 ducati 900ss, the headlight doesn't really light anything up! Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Hmmmm the few degrees motorcycle headlamps move with the steering is actually an advantage!

They have tried to get car headlamps to shift beam angle with the steering on numerouse occasions.... when you are going round a corner, you tend not to really want to iluminate the hedge right in front of you, but that dark patch to your left or right where you are going!

Its frame mounted head-lamps that are perverse, not handle-bar mounted ones!

Meanwhile, far more significant to what's lit up when you corner....

Headlamp chucks out a cone of light, normally angled down at the road...

To aid what's lit up, lense has grooving in the glass to diffuse the light and make the cone a tad more useful, and chuck more light down than up, and in the UK a bit more left (on Dip Beam) than right (So we see kurb, and dont dazzle oncoming drivers)

But when we steer, we also 'lean'!

Tilting lamp a few degrees to one or other side, is not a big difference, but rotating it, however much we lean, AND lowering it to the floor, depending on how far down we go?

Cone of light that in teh straight ahead position is lighting large chunk of road, fifty yards ahead of the bike, suddenly ti lighting, very brightly a patch of road to the oposite side we are turning, VERY much closer, due to drop in height.....

Actually turning the bars HELPS compensate for the shift in beam from leaning!


yeah that makes sense. might be something to consider for the project then. it has some advantages over fixed lights then.

ive not seen them before because ive obviously a complete spastic.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

three mini spotlights in a belly pan would be nice 3 on each side .

i have no visual aid to give


probably would not give to much effect . would just be purely cosmetic .as well as making u better well seen by other drivers . ill photoshop a picture . if u like it i can make you one .
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