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devojunior
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: chain split links. Reply with quote

can we have a little chat about split links in chains please ?

i would like to remove my chain and clean around the swingarm and get some parafin on the chain as its due a good scrug but iv never needed to take a chain off a big bike chain off before,

do i just buy a chain tool and use that to remove a link as there is no split link or will there be a specific link that was used when the chain went on.

when i come to refitting the chain should i put anothe rsolid link in or would i be ok with a split link thanks adam.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it has a split link on, you can take the clip off and remove the chain then put it back on again. It is critically important that the closed end of the clip faces the direction of rotation.
https://www.teebeemotorcycles.co.uk/ProductImages/renthal_link.jpg

If it has a rivett link, you would destroy it when you remove it. You need a special tool to fit a rivett link which pushes the pins through then deforms the end to stop them coming out. You would need to fit a new one having removed the old one.

A rivett link can be harder to identify, look for one with dimples in the end of the pins.
https://www.sportbikes.net/forums/attachments/help-me-fix/199521d1273395186-rivet-link-chain-ruined-rivet-link-done-small.jpg

You can also get endless chains where all the links are the same. To remove this you would need to remove a link (which would destroy it) then refit with a rivett link.

The other way would be to drop the swingarm and remove it in one piece.

My personal oppinion is that split links are dangerous and have no place on a bigger bike having has several fail in the past.

My advice would be that if it is endless or has a rivett link, you should just work around it.

If you take the wheel out, you'll be able to get most of the chain into a tub to clean it.
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whitedevil
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for remove wheel and use a tub with paraffin in.
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Fizzer Thou
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the right opportunity to clean the chain while I had the swingarm out to lube the bearings.
https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/BikesBikesBikes348.jpg
It was easier to do without being on the bike,but not difficult to clean when the back wheel is out.
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devojunior
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugger doing it the lazy way through swingarm,when i buy a chain tool where would be a good place to buy one,machine mart ?

i dont wanna buy a cheap one that wil break but im not made of money.

i really want to get round front sprocket and clean as i think i have that cleaning disorder,it just bugs me how dirty it is under the sprocket cover.

so to refresh you cannot push the pins in and out like on a push bike ? the chain tool will only remove a link destroying it and will only put anothe rback on ect ect ?
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Tenko
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any decent pushbike shop will sell you a chain-splitter for about a tenner... Just don't lose the pin!!!
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

IainC wrote:
Any decent pushbike shop will sell you a chain-splitter for about a tenner... Just don't lose the pin!!!


Utter nonsense.

A motorcycle chain splitter is about six times the size of a bicycle one and they still bend or break pins.

The pins on motorcycle chains are rivetted after they are fitted. They can be pushed apart like a bicycle chain but you can't just push them back together again.

A half decent motorcycle chain tool will cost anywhere between £60-£150. I have a Heine Gericke own brand one that seems pretty well built. Whale is one of the best makes. There are a lot of flimsy ones out there too. If you spent less than £60 on it, there is a good chance it will break very quickly.

Picture related, it's a comparison of scale between a bicycle chain tool and a whale rivetter.

@ devojunior. With the wheel out, you'll be able to take the chain off the sprocket and move it back out of the way. It'll go as far back as the swingarm. You'll even be able to take the sprocket off if you want to.

I would seriously advise against splitting a perfectly good chain just so it's easier to clean the bike. Leave it be.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get a DID chain splitter/riveter for around £20. Ive used mine a few times without incident.
https://bikespeeduk.com/WebRoot/Eclipse/Shops/steer2916/4C4E/FAAC/390D/67F0/E8EC/5299/FE62/47FB/DID_chaintool.jpg
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Tenko
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't meaning a small chain splitter - one that is large enough to get the link into!!! I bought one from a pushbike shop years ago and used to use it without any problems until I lost the pin. I was in a pushbike shop on Wednesday looking for one as my lad has broken the chain on his BMX, and the larger ones would be fine for a motorbike chain. Whatever, you need to look at the splitter first to ascertain this yourself!!!
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