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Paulington
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 13 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it is legal.

No matter what method you use to get the bike to produce 33bhp, it is legal. The legislation says nothing about the method just that it cannot have a net power output of more than 33bhp.

Although, you would have to do a fair bit of playing to get that to work correctly. You'd have to get it dyno'd, then mark the point to drill it, then drill it and dyno it again which will be a right pain.

Plus, that won't rev at all. It will be horrible.

Do what everyone else does, if you are getting almost any 600/750 then you will be able to get either:

A) Washers to go into the carbs.
B) PROPER Throttle stop and air inlet blade to restrict air flow.
C) A restricted ECU that changes the ignition timing to reduce the power.

The first two will be anywhere from £0-£100, the third one will be fairly expensive but unless you are getting a more modern one (read: 2002+) then it is likely to be doable via. inlet blade and proper throttle stop or just carb washers. THEN you can get it dyno'd.

It's going to be in there a fair while anyway so just do it properly and then when you are finished sell it on eBay or similar for nearly the price you paid for it as restrictor kits for any 600/750 bikes are always sought after.

Also, if a part says "For Racing Use Only", that means you can't use it on a roadgoing bike, FYI. Wink.

Best of luck.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 13 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is their much point in swapping a 33bhp bros for a 33bhp 600, which probably won't ride as well? Restrictors belong in the bin.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 13 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Also, if a part says "For Racing Use Only", that means you can't use it on a roadgoing bike, FYI. Wink.


Why's that? Is the throttle part of the C&U regs?
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 13 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Also, if a part says "For Racing Use Only", that means you can't use it on a roadgoing bike, FYI. Wink.


No it doesn't, you are making a humongous assumption based on race cans having that on them.

What it generally means is the manufacturer doesn't have belief in their product and are trying to stop you suing them when it fails on the road as they don't have product liability insurance.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 13 Sep 2011    Post subject: Re: Throttle pin restrictors, legal or not? Reply with quote

hahadumball wrote:
I was thinking about ifnishing this insurance year on my bros then getting a 600-750 then restricting it with a pin in the throttle..

My question is, can i do the work myself ( 10-15 minute job)
or does it have to be done by a qualified money grabber.


You can do it yourself. But not sure from your picture what you are going to do, beyond pin the throttle to the housing to stop it turning at all. To do what you want there would mean having some stop at the right position on the throttle tube (or possibly a 'trench' in the end for the pin to slide in).

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:14 - 13 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I've done on my Fazer is put a crimp on the cable similar to what you are trying to achieve. It just stops it just before half throttle and everyone is a winner Smile
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the throttles I've used are are just round tubing. They're not eccentric at all. This means if you put a pin in place it either won't move or it'll just rub on the top of the cable all the way round.

I believe that's what Keith was referring to.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier to put a pin in for the quadrant surely
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr jamez wrote:
Is their much point in swapping a 33bhp bros for a 33bhp 600, which probably won't ride as well? Restrictors belong in the bin.


What he said.

If you're getting a 750 and restricting it, lets be honest you are doing it purely for looks
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:

If you're getting a 750 and restricting it, lets be honest you are doing it purely for looks


It's one of the most common reasons for choosing a bike anyway so why not?

Also, people restrict bikes to comply with the law for 2 years, so unless you only intend to keep the bike for 2 years or less you end up getting the benefit of full power eventually without the bind of suffering two lots of depreciation.
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