Riding 33bhp 600's

[KingKong]

Hello All

I would like to trouble you for your memos on your riding experience of 33bhp 600cc bikes...

1) What was the acceleration like compared to lower cc bikes and cars in traffic?

2) What was the top speed?

3) Were you able to stick with the restriction for 2 years (did it get boring)?

I am also interested in reading from those of you who do ride unrestricted 600cc.

Many, many thanks
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[Benson_JV]

I'm on one now, I've only ridden a 125 and obviously a 33bhp 600 (in my case CBR600FW) is a huge difference. I haven't had a car overtake me, or pull even with me for a looong time though.


Top speed is an indicated 110

It's getting boring, my restrictors might fall out soon.
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Willson - "If you go out on that CBR600 in the winter, you're going to do more miles on your side than on your wheels."
Riding: CBR600FW Driving: Audi A6
Previous Bikes: '96 Bandit 600, '96 GPz305

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33HP SV650

1) Will beat any car out of the lights and up to about 50/60.

2) 101 indicated

3) I removed it. Since then I decided to go and do Accelerated Access later this month.

[Dan_Davies]

on a restricted sv650s. amazing acceleration, top speed ive had out of it was 103mph (: it'll happily do 90 tho, which for a first big bike is good. had it two months now and within the next month the restrictors may just fall out or something
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ex rides : lifan mirage 125

[Fifteen15]

Also on a restricted SV650. Only been riding it for about 2 weeks though. Top speed seems to be an indicated 105-110 according to some of the guys on SV650.org. I've never been anywhere near that, but then again I've never tried to. The acceleration is crazy fast, but then again it's my first bike and I'm used to driving a 1.3 Corsa. I've not got bored of it yet, and probably won't get bored of it until my 2 years is up. I'm not interested in taking the restrictors out, do a bit of research and you'll realize the risks certainly outweigh the benefits, at least for me it does.
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[KingKong]

Thank you all very much.

It's as I anticipated - fast and fun at first, but kinda loses the thrill shortly.

What I'm more concerned about is not necessarily beating cars off the lights, but more when in traffic (moving) and you attempt to overtake a car: tried this on my 125 and nearly had an accident as the taxi saw me coming alongside and must have though to hell with you and stamped on the accelerator. He picked up speed faster and sooner than my 125 ever could and I had to slam on the brakes before I hit the centre island.

Now, on a 33hp 600, if the scenario was to repeat, would I be able to speed past the begrudging taxi driver and successfully overtake; or would I still lose the 'drag race' so to speak?
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

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[KingKong]

[pepperami]

I cant say about riding a restricted 600 as I have only ever ridden 600`s without the restrictions.
I am guessing that it`s a lot of bike for 33bhp to pull "quickly" if you get my drift?.

I have however ridden a good few 250`s, 350`s and the like with allsorts of power outputs up to 33bhp and none of them were ever a problem for getting out of a tight situation with cars/traffic.
Been out on many a ride-out where all the lads were on big bikes 500cc + and not shamed myself because I was on a 250

I can see the attraction of wanting a restricted 600, knowing it will be unrestricted in a couple of years, or the restrictors might fall out .
Personally I`d rather have a 33bhp 250, but then people say I`m odd
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[KingKong]

[Gazdaman]

A restricted bigger bike has arguably more 'presence' than a smaller capacity bike. I always found they felt more planted because they're well within their limits. Not like a GS500 flat out at 100 that's wobbling all over the place because you're pushing the boundaries of its abilities.

They're plenty quick enough for everyday riding, and faster than the vast majority of cars.

Top speed is going to be around 100-110.

Most people take the restrictors out before the two years I reckon. It's like giving a child a toy, a really cool toy, and leaving it on a shelf, within reach in its plastic. They're gonna take it down, and they're gonna open it.

Gaz

[KingKong]

[KingKong]

[Drake]

you would get bored of wondering what the bike full potential is like, how it pulls un-restricted, all i know is hornet restrictors make em asthmatic, but they will do a ton just about.
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[pepperami]

[Gazdaman]

And people who tell you restrictors mess with the fuelling are just wrong (or poorly informed).

Some restrictors sit in the top of the carbs and stop the slide coming up all the way, a bit like a throttle stop. So it's just like riding at half throttle.

Or the disks in the inlet just reduce the width of the opening, restricting the amount of already mixed fuel/air mixture getting to the cylinder.

Some take to restriction better than others i.e it might highlight an existing problem. Like in my car, if I accelerate on part throttle around 2k rpm it'll stutter like mad. If restrictors make the bike run in a way it doesn't enjoy, then it'll highlight the problem, but restrictors rarely make the problem.

Gaz

[KingKong]

[tk338]

I gave you a brief overview of my 33bhp experience on a previous thread, so I won't bore you with that again.

With regards to the restrictors 'stay in', I was pulled over for something stupid and the copper didn't know a lot about hikes, but being a traffic cop he knew enough to notice I was still in my restriction period. He probed around a lot, as in asking me lots of questions, but as I understand it, he couldn't ask me for any proof or to bring it in to test it unless he had reason to believe that it wasn't restricted.

He was in a foul mood too threw all kinds of threats, ie. if you haven't got it, its riding without insurance we'll take your bike away, you'll go to court face a massive fine etc etc. I wouldn't have wanted to be in that position if I didn't have the restrictors in personally! Plus I cant lie.

I stick to limits most of the time especially now I'm 3 points from having to do my test again, remember if its you're first license your first 2 years you're only allowed 6 points or you have to start again only the points will carry over to your new license too. I wouldn't want to insure a 600 with 6 points on my license let alone 3!

I'm not saying you're going to do anything stupid, but I know you can be stupid enough on a 33bhp, even on a 125! Personally if anyone was going to do a full unrestricted test I'd say to them put some restrictors in for a few months and get used to it! But if you're stuck with them for 2 years it can get mundane although may save your license :p

Sorry for the long dragged out reply, its been a long day
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[KingKong]

[hedgehugger]

I owned and rode a Kawasaki er5 restricted (not a 600 I know).
It was heavy, sounded like a tractor, but could do a ton 2-up.
My first big-bike experience, I loved it

I then got an er6, also restricted. Blinkin' throttle stop bollocks!
Used to twist the wrist and not get there lol.
Restrictors came out when my restriction was up, bike runs fine.
Twist the wrist and it now gets there with more to spare

[waffles]

I did DAS so ride an unrestricted 600, it goes fast enough for me and has bags of oomph to spare at the top end. Its a little laggy or gutless up until 30-40mph then really kicks in, but by this point friends on their litre bikes are becoming smaller dots in the distance

Still, a lot of fun to ride and I have no intention to sell it on yet
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Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
Past rides Yamaha XT125X, Triumph TT600, Honda XR250
Current rides Suzuki GSXR 600, Honda MSX125

[Glenben92]

"A 600cc bike" is WAY too ambiguous. It's not about engine size at all, very little information lies within that figure at all.

I ride an unrestricted GPZ500S, I found it amazing at first but I find myself a little bored with its lack of power already (had it since july-ish) I did plan to keep it for years but I can see myself upgrading to a CBR6f etc. immediately after restriction period ends (GPZ is less conspicuous for now)
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99 Yamaha FZS 600 -
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[Fifteen15]

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