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PostPosted: 23:25 - 23 Oct 2011    Post subject: Mod.2 Warnings Reply with quote

Hello,

Soon to be taking the Mod.2 test, and was hoping for some valuable tips, please.

Question - What typically constitutes instant fail;

Question - What is the toughest element of Mod.2

Any other tips that come to mind, please.

Much appreciated Smile
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PostPosted: 06:35 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this (https://www.lightningpass.com/jkcm/COURSE+INFORMATION/HOW+TO+FAIL+YOUR+TEST) pretty useful. There are dozens of ways to fail, but honestly it's a lot easier than most people think. Try to treat it like a normal ride, following the Highway Code, and you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make another road user take avoiding action = fail.

Just about everything else is or can be marked as a minor, if you haven't already failed the First Impressions Test. Spank out a few £££ on a hi vis bib if you don't already have one.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indicators being left on when passing a road you're not turning into seems to be a pretty common route to failure.

Like the others have said, chill out, keep your wits about you and don't do anything silly for 45 mins. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all very much Smile
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all very much Smile
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indicators, indicators and INDICATORS!!!! Smile

If you forget it one time and it's in the wrong place, (a junction, with a car/bike/bus) odds are you will fail.
Forget them at the right time (not going past a junction) and you should just get a minor, as long as you don't keep doing it!

Drill yourself between now and your test. Even if it's 6 weeks away. You will be glad you did.

Obs, VERY important. Don't forget the Obs/Lifesavers. Again, drill yourself now until test day. Train those muscles to remember.

BTW, I can comment on this because I JUST PASSED THIS MORNING!!!!! Laughing

Sorry, got carried away Wink

Good luck to you.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Mod.2 Warnings Reply with quote

KingKong wrote:

Question - What typically constitutes instant fail;


Punching the examiner.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:
Indicators, indicators and INDICATORS!!!! Smile

If you forget it one time and it's in the wrong place, (a junction, with a car/bike/bus) odds are you will fail.
Forget them at the right time (not going past a junction) and you should just get a minor, as long as you don't keep doing it!

Drill yourself between now and your test. Even if it's 6 weeks away. You will be glad you did.

Obs, VERY important. Don't forget the Obs/Lifesavers. Again, drill yourself now until test day. Train those muscles to remember.

BTW, I can comment on this because I JUST PASSED THIS MORNING!!!!! Laughing

Sorry, got carried away Wink

Good luck to you.


Congrats; well done Smile
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be making sure to get the first impression a good one like Rogerborg says. Sure, exams are meant to be marked against a specific sheet, but if the examiner is 50/50 on whether to pass you or not then it's almost inevitable his impression of you will make the judgement.

When I showed up for mine I was wearing matching gear. The gear consisted of a HJC Helmet, RST textiles (2 piece, zips together) and nitro boots with full shin protection. I was also wearing leather gloves with fibreglass(?) knuckle protection.
And then to top it all off I made sure that I'd got my hi-vis already on my jacket so that when the examiner saw me putting on the jacket he'd notice that I'd ridden there wearing one (to show I'm sensible). Also used a pin thingy to keep the hi-vis closed in-case the wind caused the velcro to open.

As for what not to do for an instant fail. Just don't do anything stupid, or dangerous. E.G. If you go up the wrong way of a dual carriage way then you're guaranteed to instantly fail.

A simple fail to do is when turning right from traffic lights into coming traffic. If your light goes from red-green the move to the turning point and wait for a gap. If you stay behind the white line (at the traffic lights) and they go back to red before you've had a chance to go, you've failed.

There are quite a few minors which are easy to get as well though. So make sure to keep the right distance from parked cars to avoid a minor, and also indicate even in right/left hand only lanes to avoid a minor.

Good luck Thumbs Up

And well done Alex, I'm glad the over-worrying didn't hinder you in the end Wink
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

jordanmoore wrote:
I'd be making sure to get the first impression a good one...I was wearing matching gear. The gear consisted of a HJC Helmet, RST textiles (2 piece, zips together) and nitro boots with full shin protection. I was also wearing leather gloves with fibreglass(?) knuckle protection...Good luck Thumbs Up :


Thank you Smile

The issue is that I have my rider jacket, protective gloves, but only have jeans and timberlands. This is because of my non-existent budget, I cannot go and buy the full gear in one go.
I'm self-prepped, that's how bad the budget is Wink I spoke to my Mod.1 examiner about this and he said that what I had on was perfectly acceptable, and that he could understand. Mind, I doubt my Mod.2 examiner (should they be a different one to my Mod1) will provide me the opportunity to explain my attire.

As for the Hi-vis, I have that and wear it to and from the test centre Smile

As for riding ability, I've been practicing correct positioning, observations, speed and indicating as I ride so that it all remains second nature. But you never know what happens on the day (morning in my case)

Thank you all for being so helpful and forthcoming with your tips Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Efes123 wrote:
I found this (https://www.lightningpass.com/jkcm/COURSE+INFORMATION/HOW+TO+FAIL+YOUR+TEST) pretty useful. There are dozens of ways to fail, but honestly it's a lot easier than most people think. Try to treat it like a normal ride, following the Highway Code, and you'll be fine.


This was very helpful; thanks a lot Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly difficult to do, but try to be calm and relaxed. Knowing what you need to do and being calm about it will make a big difference to your focus and being physically loose. Stress will introduce an additional unnecessary hurdle.

Relax and try to enjoy it!
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stiffler wrote:
Slightly difficult to do, but try to be calm and relaxed. Knowing what you need to do and being calm about it will make a big difference to your focus and being physically loose. Stress will introduce an additional unnecessary hurdle.

Relax and try to enjoy it!


So very true, as well as intelligible. Thanks, will do my best to remain 'at ease' Smile

The support here for tests by you guys is fantastic Smile

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PostPosted: 16:54 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gear isn't too much to worry about so long as you have enough to meet test requirements (which you do). Though you could always be cheeky and speak to the examiner whilst he's checking your paper work, and ask him a few questions about the gear he's got and what it would cost because you're looking into buying something better Wink

KingKong wrote:
I'm self-prepped, that's how bad the budget is Wink


That's not a problem. Recently both me and Alex_B have passed being self taught, just scraping BCF for all the tips it has Laughing

As for the being calm part of things. There's a couple of breathing exercises that can be done which help to settle your nerves - but I think the absolute best thing to do before any practical test is go for a nice ride on the bike with the destination being your test centre; it also help ensures that the engine is nice and warm so it's less likely to give you any grief at the test and helps making that much needed 60mph so much easier to attain Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

jordanmoore wrote:
The gear isn't too much to worry ...ask him a few questions about the gear he's got and what it would cost because you're looking into buying something better Wink ...That's not a problem. Recently both me and Alex_B have passed being self taught, just scraping BCF for all the tips it has Laughing


Here's one for scraping tips; how should I approach this:

Turning right out of a minor road onto major road, having to cross traffic coming from my right. Do I have to wait until both sides are clear; or do I come out into the middle of the road when traffic on the right permits, and wait for traffic from the left to calm/let me pass in order to continue?
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'll wait for the road to be clear both ways. If traffic in the left hand lane on the major road is stopped then pulling out should be okay if they give you a gap, but not if it's flowing traffic (would you even want to, especially given the amount of SMIDSYs there are).
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is a middle section big enough for a bike then yes, you can wait in the middle.
If not, then you gotta wait until you can do it in one.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get a dry mouth at the start of your test, DON'T pop some gum into your mouth when your helmet is on or you may bite the inside of your cheeks and drink blood for the entire 40 mins.

That didn't happen to me at all. Honest.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

jordanmoore & Alex_B - Thank you for responding swiftly and informatively; very helpful. If either/both of you are in London ever, a drink for each of you is on me Smile

ElliotReidMD - that would be horrible! My wisdom tooth sometimes catches my cheek when chewing and it flippin hurts Smile Will refrain from chewing gum on the morning. I will have to skip brekkie as my test is 08:15hrs - another self-inflicted challenge/obstacle - rush hour traffic!
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey mate, I'm in SE London and I'll take a beer Wink

8:15 is a good time. That was mine this morning actually.

Traffic *should* be your friend. It should give you less opportunity for mistakes but they are not daft, you will be on roads without traffic as well.

Good luck matey Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi - very good advice by all on here ! And excellent support as well - pass or fail !

Try not to be too nervous, stay calm and don't feel rushed or pressured to "make progress" if you think it's not safe. Remember your checks, cancel indicators and watch the speed limits.

Most of all - the very best of luck !
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes speed limits.

Pay attention to changes in the speed limit if they happen when you turn into a new road. Remember to look for repeater signs which are spaced something like every 7 seconds (not sure of the exact number here) if you are unsure of the speed limit. Remember that in a built up area with regulary spaced street lamps, it's usually a 30 unless you see signs telling ou otherwise.

My biggest worry on my test was not noticing a change of speed sign on a junction though, fortunately, I managed to catch them all.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:
Hey mate, I'm in SE London and I'll take a beer Wink

8:15 is a good time. That was mine this morning actually.

Traffic *should* be your friend. It should give you less opportunity for mistakes but they are not daft, you will be on roads without traffic as well.

Good luck matey Thumbs Up


Cool stuff, beer it is - PM to arrange it Smile I certainly hope that the traffic works to my advantage.

Sherwood Bambi wrote:
don't feel rushed or pressured to "make progress" if you think it's not safe


Failed that on a practice on my own today Razz Hopefully won't repeat that error during the test!

ElliotReidMD wrote:
My biggest worry on my test was not noticing a change of speed sign


That's another one of my serious concerns, as I am too busy worrying about obs when I turn that I may have missed the signs :s Working on it...
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 26 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wahoo! Passed Smile))

Thank you so much for the support.

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