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penis020
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: mot refusal are these big jobs to fix Reply with quote

Hi to all I took my af1 125 sp for a long awaited mot test today and I got the refusal certificate much to my disappointment this was the list headland aim to low headlamp aim beam image kick up to offside wheel alignment incorrect which adversely affects the handing nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil rear brake hose is likely to be fouled or trapped by moving parts drive chain fouling another component drive chain excessively loose nearside rear forest missing offside rear footrest missing are those easy fixs or do I need the help for a motorbike repair shop does anyone know a ball park cost for this work need any help on fixing those issue or sloving this issue would be great many thanks Jamie
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: mot refusal are these big jobs to fix Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
Hi to all I took my af1 125 sp for a long awaited mot test today and I got the refusal certificate much to my disappointment this was the list headland aim to low headlamp aim beam image kick up to offside wheel alignment incorrect which adversely affects the handing nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil rear brake hose is likely to be fouled or trapped by moving parts drive chain fouling another component drive chain excessively loose nearside rear forest missing offside rear footrest missing are those easy fixs or do I need the help for a motorbike repair shop does anyone know a ball park cost for this work need any help on fixing those issue or sloving this issue would be great many thanks Jamie


putting this in some form of list order might be easier to get help. i gave up after the "offside wheel alignment" because my head started hurting from lack of punctuation! Sad
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: mot refusal are these big jobs to fix Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
Hi to all I took my af1 125 sp for a long awaited mot test today and I got the refusal certificate much to my disappointment this was the list
headland aim to low
headlamp aim beam image kick up to offside
wheel alignment incorrect which adversely affects the handing
nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil
rear brake hose is likely to be fouled or trapped by moving parts
drive chain fouling another component
drive chain excessively loose
nearside rear forest missing
offside rear footrest missing
are those easy fixs or do I need the help for a motorbike repair shop does anyone know a ball park cost for this work need any help on fixing those issue or sloving this issue would be great many thanks Jamie

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PostPosted: 18:46 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: mot refusal are these big jobs to fix Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
Hi to all.
I took my af1 125 sp for a long awaited MOT test today and I got the refusal certificate, much to my disappointment.

This was the list:
Headlamp aim to low - easy fix
Headlamp aim, beam image kick up to offside - might need a new headlamp, a UK one
Wheel alignment incorrect which adversely affects the handing - easy fix to re-align
Nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil - need new seal, biggest job here
Rear brake hose is likely to be fouled or trapped by moving parts - tie wrap it to secure
Drive chain fouling another component - probably fixed by tightening chain, unless there's too long a screw in the chainguard
Drive chain excessively loose - tighten chainNearside rear forest missing - fit footrest or remove pillion seat
Offside rear footrest missing - fit footrest or remove pillion seat

Are those easy fixes or do I need the help of a motorbike repair shop? Does anyone know a ball park cost for this work. Any help on fixing those issue or sloving this issue would be great.
Many thanks, Jamie


Mostly easy jobs. No excuse for presenting a bike with a loose chain as you should know that already. Punctuation fixed for free Smile
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: mot refusal are these big jobs to fix Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
Hi to all,
I took my af1 125 sp for a long awaited mot test today.
I got a refusal certificate much to my disappointment.
This was the list of faults:

Headlamp aim to low

Headlamp aim beam image kick up to offside

Wheel alignment incorrect which adversely affects the handing

Nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil

Rear brake hose is likely to be fouled or trapped by moving parts

Drive chain fouling another component

Drive chain excessively loose

Nearside rear forest missing

Offside rear footrest missing.


Are those easy fixes?

Do I need help from a motorbike repair shop?

Does anyone know a ball park cost for this work or can give any advice on fixing these issues?

Many thanks


Jamie



That took about 60 seconds to reformat that, if you want us to help you at least make your post readable.

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PostPosted: 19:11 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sorting out my school boy Punctuation. I have just read it back it seems that an under 5 could have done better sorry to all who have had to read it in this mess.

Nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil . Could anyone explain how i change the seals do I need any spacial tools for removing of the seals .?

Remove pillion seat ,, Would the M.O.T Tester pass this if the foam was removed and just locked has not fit for a pillion ?

Headlamp aim, beam image kick up to offside . I have been told there is a headlight rectifier I can buy ?
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

First post was sent through my phone sorry again
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beam kicks up to the off-side is a strange one, because it implies that it dips to the left which is correct. Is it a UK bike or an import?

Fork seals are easy on conventional forks, usually just remove the top nut and drain the oil, pull the spring out, un-do the bolt in the leg bottom, remove the seal circlip then use the leg as a slide-hammer to knock out the seal. Fit new seal, re-fit circlip , fill correct amount of oil and re-fit spring & cap.

Can you borrow a pair of foot-pegs? Or make a cowl for the seat? Doesn't need to be tidy, just hack something from plastic, just as long as it's not possible to sit on it, then there's no need for pegs.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: mot refusal are these big jobs to fix Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
the list headland aim to low


Easy fix

betnow1234 wrote:
headlamp aim beam image kick up to offside


Problem here is that the UK models had totally different headlights (and fairings to match). Possibly there is another bike that uses the same headlight that will dip the right way (maybe BMW C1). Otherwise you are stuck putting tape on the headlight to stop it dazzling people.

betnow1234 wrote:
wheel alignment incorrect which adversely affects the handing


Depends what is out of like. The Rear wheel can't be adjusted to change the angle (although it is possible to mount the wheel badly so it is very wonky), being a single sided swinging arm with an eccentric adjuster. Hopefully the problem is just the forks being twisted in the yokes, in which case slackening off a few of the pinch bolts and bouncing the front suspension up and down should put them parallel again.

Also could be it has had a bump and has bent something such as the front wheel spindle.

betnow1234 wrote:
nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil


Seal will be a bit of a pain to replace. USD fork.

betnow1234 wrote:
rear brake hose is likely to be fouled or trapped by moving parts


Depends what it is fouling. Possibly the lose chain mentioned as well, in which case easy.

betnow1234 wrote:
drive chain fouling another component


As above.

betnow1234 wrote:
drive chain excessively loose


Adjust it!

betnow1234 wrote:
nearside rear forest missing offside rear footrest missing


You need pillion footrests if it has a pillion seat. AF1 ones are not that common these days but RS125 ones will fit on easily.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Beam kicks up to the off-side is a strange one, because it implies that it dips to the left which is correct. Is it a UK bike or an import?


This Bike is an import - Never been Uk registered, the light is a letterbox light


Pete. wrote:

Can you borrow a pair of foot-pegs? Or make a cowl for the seat? Doesn't need to be tidy, just hack something from plastic, just as long as it's not possible to sit on it, then there's no need for pegs.


Ive got a pillion seat spare (just the plastic no foam or cover) its just the actual bit of plastic that the foam etc goes on top of... so do you think this will suffice? as you wouldn't be able to sit on it

thanks again for all your help
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:

Ive got a pillion seat spare (just the plastic no foam or cover) its just the actual bit of plastic that the foam etc goes on top of... so do you think this will suffice? as you wouldn't be able to sit on it


Probably not, as you could still sit on it and it is a seat. But the MOT tester might be generous.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there was no seat at all, that should be good enough. You could just tape the hole over. Ask the tester.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
If there was no seat at all, that should be good enough. You could just tape the hole over. Ask the tester.


Hi has anybody tried this method with success ? many thanks jamie


Also i just spoke my dad and he seems to think they are not usd frocks do any other frocks so very confused ??
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Unless someone has done major changes then the forks are upside down ones.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:17 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

What would the changes be and why would u do them i would like to know the reason for doing the change if they have been changed many thanks jamie
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Likely new forks, yokes, mudguard, front wheel and brakes. Not really any reason to do it unless the original forks were knackered (and it takes a HELL of a lot to bend the original forks) and someone happened to have a front end handy that fitted without major work.

Take a photo and post it and we can tell instantly.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:35 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: hi Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
What would the changes be and why would u do them i would like to know the reason for doing the change if they have been changed many thanks jamie


Its very very very very very unlikely that USD forks would be changed for conventional ones, unless the bike had been in a front end smash of course.

Perhaps if you posted pictures that might help?
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your help, I will post some pictures after work tomorow.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

betnow1234 wrote:
Pete. wrote:
Beam kicks up to the off-side is a strange one, because it implies that it dips to the left which is correct. Is it a UK bike or an import?


This Bike is an import - Never been Uk registered, the light is a letterbox light


Might I sugest fitting a halfords beam bender on the lights as motorcycles do not have to have a kick to the left as cars do. A horizontal head lamp aim cut off is acceptable.
As for the seat cover, just ride it in with nothing there. If it isn't there they can't test it as though it is.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

Here is I picture of my forks and my bike are these usd?
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: my bike Reply with quote

My bike
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they are USD forks.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Something odd going on there as those wheels are from an Aprilia AF1 Sintesi rather than a Futura (brake disk is as well), and the forks are the older type (from a Sintesi or early Futura), yet with that bodywork I think it should have the later forks. Also the front mudguard has been changed (doesn't suit either the early or late forks).

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:42 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

So basically this bike has just been mixed and matched from all sorts of af1 ?
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Yep. Unsure about the swinging arm. It takes a HELL of a lot to bend those forks so quite possibly not due to an accident (it would likely bend the frame before wrecking the forks, and / or snap the top yoke and pivot the forks into the clocks).

The Sintesi wheels use narrower tyres (from memory). Futura wheels should be 5 spoke ones.

All the best

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