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Nai
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Anti-Scrote Devices Reply with quote

After having my bike stolen twice in a couple of weeks I got myself one of them big Oxford chains, chained my bike to a tree, and today found some buggers had a go at my chain.

So, anti scrote devices. I browsed Ebay and saw a cheapy alarm, Cyclone 2 or something. Anyone had one? Any good? Also them brake disk lock things, I assume they are all the same sorta thing, padlock for the disk, any difference between them?

Also, balls to my insurance next year. My street has become so crime ridden my postcode sucks for insurance, and the 2 thefts have cracked my insurance up (bout £50 each despite not claiming :-/ ). Shouldn't have called the police for the secound one considering they did wank all the first time.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've hotwired one of my bikes and start it from a hidden switch.

Thieving lowlife can spend as long as they like screwdrivering the lock, it will never ever start Laughing

Oh yeah. The cyclone is very good for the money. Had a few on various bikes.

Plenty of threads here about the cyclone alarms
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twice!? Wow thats bad. Shocked

My friend has one of those 2-way pager alarms for his YZFR125, it has a under-seat sensor so if anyone sits on the bike, it lets the owner know via a pager keyring, and if anyone tries to start the engine, it goes ape shit. They're on ebay for about £50, so not bad.

I personally have attached to a ground anchor on my bike (one Oxford, and one unbranded), The stock steering lock and I'll soon be getting a movement alarm and a new disk lock. If someone wants your bike, they will get it, the trick is to slow them down as much as possible.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclone is brilliant VFM. Not the most sophisticated alarm, but certainly one of the cheapest for £25 delivered, and does pretty much as much as anything else. Pretty easy to wire too.

Disc locks. Cheapo's can be bent off the disc. So what? They say 'think Twice', they'll never stop the deturmined having a go, of lifting thing in the back of a van. I like the alarmed ones, as they tend to go off if you forget to remove them!

Chain & something to chain to, is the real 'stopper' but again, only slows down the deturmined.

Imobilisers and 'stuff'? well, Cyclone comes with one, if you have it, may as well use it. But its only minor frustration to a tea-leaf. Any-one that can get past disc lock or chain, ent going to be sat where you left it fucking about with wires! They'll be in a dark alley, back of a van or warm lock-up.. in which case working at thier leisure wont take them long to suss it.... if they even bother, and dont just strip the thing for bits.

You'll never make a bike completely thief proof, and get to the level of tracking systems? Well, only any use to get bike back after its 'gone'... would you really WANT it back, then?
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 04 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax 3, cyclone cheapie alarm, Alpha Dot or Datatag sticker (Alpha Dot/Datatag kit optional, but Alpha Dot is cheaper so i'd go for that Very Happy) and then you can relax. A little.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
I've hotwired one of my bikes and start it from a hidden switch.


Instructions, please.
(which I will diligently pass on to my fella to decipher, he's better with electrickery than me) Smile
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

F*ck the oxford chains off for a start, they can be cropped in seconds.

Almax chain and hardy ground anchor Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the best way is to put quite a few security devices on the bike. Chain will be the most obvious to deter a casual thief but for the determined a defence in depth is best.

chain through wheel/forks/frame to something sturdy, disk lock front, u-lock through the rear wheel etc etc. You can buy alarmed disc, U-lock and padlocks. I have a pair of cheap alarm padlocks which I hide on the bike so if its disturbed it makes a racket.

if you are leaving it unattended for a long time, I put the K on its centrestand, tie the centrestand to the front wheel with a cargo strap and remove the rear wheel. Another is to put the bike in first and remove the gear lever. On some bikes its possible to remove the ignitor unit easily enough.
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sensative alarm with a bike cover works. The cover sort of hides the bike, but also if moved should set the alarm off. A very thick chain or indeed an Almax if it is in budget. Another thing is yourself, and your neighbours. If you can get each other being look outs or just being visible quite often, they probably will start to look else where.

I live in Hackney which has it fair share of thieves and so far it has worked for me. The more measures you take, the more off putting it is for the thieves and surely they will go for the easier bikes in the area.
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PostPosted: 03:03 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclone 2 is great for being sensitive.

Loved mine Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:17 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go for anything that gives off an audible warning, thiefs have minutes to crack a chain/padlock, and nobody will question them this day and age.

Get a sirened gadget and let it keep gaurd for you. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
I'd go for anything that gives off an audible warning, thiefs have minutes to crack a chain/padlock, and nobody will question them this day and age.

Get a sirened gadget and let it keep gaurd for you. Thumbs Up


Get something you can use when you hear it being nicked too. Think back to when Mr Dunc's bike got nicked by around 10 people. You're not going to have a chance unless you are tooled up.

No chance in hell would I have gone out there to chase 10 people off unarmed.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J5 wrote:
Think back to when Mr Dunc's bike got nicked by around 10 people.


"People"? Don't lump us in with those bipedal rats, please.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J5 wrote:
st3v3 wrote:
I'd go for anything that gives off an audible warning, thiefs have minutes to crack a chain/padlock, and nobody will question them this day and age.

Get a sirened gadget and let it keep gaurd for you. Thumbs Up


Get something you can use when you hear it being nicked too. Think back to when Mr Dunc's bike got nicked by around 10 people. You're not going to have a chance unless you are tooled up.

No chance in hell would I have gone out there to chase 10 people off unarmed.


This is the problem though. What is "reasonable" to have/charge the thugs with? You can't exactly expect to get away with getting a carving knife out the kitchen drawer and running outside...
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A metal bar (i had a 10 tonne trolley jack handle to hand), and a brteaker bar used for undoing car wheel bearing nuts. (with a 30mm socket attached).

Problem is, any more than 3 decent sized people and they can carry it away.

All this focus on chains, almax/oxford etc etc, last night they got thru my PADLOCK in seconds, chain was too thick but as a preventative measure, maybe the padlocks could be improved? This was cut like a knife thru cheese, can't thay make them with an inner material like titanium that's amazingly hard for crops to snip?
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Anti-Scrote Devices Reply with quote

Nai wrote:
So, anti scrote devices.


The broken, beaten bloody corpse of a chav chained to the bike with a sign that reads "This is number 4. Want to try for no.5?" next to the bike.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:

This is the problem though. What is "reasonable" to have/charge the thugs with? You can't exactly expect to get away with getting a carving knife out the kitchen drawer and running outside...


On one estate where I had a load of trouble with twots showing interest in my bike I had a pressure washer hooked up permanently. Gave one or two a damned good wash.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mild electric charge...like the stuff they use to pen in animals. Wrap it round your bike, and voila, anti-theft device. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
A metal bar (i had a 10 tonne trolley jack handle to hand), and a brteaker bar used for undoing car wheel bearing nuts. (with a 30mm socket attached).

Problem is, any more than 3 decent sized people and they can carry it away.

All this focus on chains, almax/oxford etc etc, last night they got thru my PADLOCK in seconds, chain was too thick but as a preventative measure, maybe the padlocks could be improved? This was cut like a knife thru cheese, can't thay make them with an inner material like titanium that's amazingly hard for crops to snip?


What padlock did you use?
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a gorilla lock. It's a wheel clamp cemented into my drive with a spindle to stop the tea leaving b@stards removing the front wheel.

It has worked so far and I'd say it is more effective than a chain / lampost combo. From experience, my opinion is I'd already have had it stolen if it had been chained to a lamp post.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covers are well underrated as security deterrents.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

StevRS wrote:
Covers are well underrated as security deterrents.


doesn't stop them lifting it up for a peek, some even go missing too
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