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I originally finished A levels etc at high school, and left with no real idea of what I wanted to do.
Resulting in me spending 3-4 years on various job training schemes, and bundling my way thru a few crap jobs before realising that extra qualifications might help me to increase my opportunities.
So I went back to a re-start college course, and eventually to uni as a "mature student" (in my early/mid twenties) studying with other students around 5 years+ younger than me.
Dunno if 5+ years counts, but it was one of the most valuable career benefits for me at the time ____________________ 1st bike (Sept'06 - May'10) : 1991 GPZ500S / Current bike (since Nov 2009) : 2003 Suzuki Bandit 600N
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 Posted: 20:56 - 19 Nov 2011 Post subject: Re: Mature Students / Going back to Uni |
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My loose plan is to find an admin job, and possibly go to night school/uni and retrain in something that actually interests me. Just don't know what that is going to be. Seeing that other people have done this already would be a confidence boost.
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To be honest, the bit in bold suggests that it would be a waste of time going back to uni at the moment; there's little point going back as a mature student unless you're 100% sure of what you want to be doing IMO.
The second concern would be financial. On the assumption you took three years full funding on your previous degree, you're only going to get one more year of that (though you'll still be able to get a full maintenance loan for the three years, you'll only get a tuition fee loan for the last year.) I can just manage by paying my fees with the maintenance and a part time job, but fees will have gone up by the time you go back and so the fees will not even come close to being covered by the maintenance loan. That's not to say that bursaries and other university grants won't help you out a bit.
And that's enough of the negative....
I was 30 when I went back to school, and am in my second year currently. I'd done three years of a "Humanities" degree though never graduated and then did a variety of jobs before finding myself teaching DAS for a few years. While enjoyable, there was no chance of advancing my career and so I looked for something else. It is possible to do and is certainly worthwhile though I think you've already worked out that it would need to be vocational if you're looking at advancing your career. On that note, I believe that Medicine might be an exception to the rule about no second full loan. Another option is that Law certainly does shorter courses (though they're bastard intense) for Graduates - there are possibly Grad entry degrees for other disciplines?
And, as others have said the OU could be an option. Work out what you want to do first though, and then do it - you only live once. Good luck  ____________________ Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. |
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Agreed, if you want letters after your name, go straight to a Masters. You can also do a taught course, a Postgraduate Diploma - add an optional 'with Project' to essentially get an equivalent to a Masters.
At your advanced age though, you should be getting jobs based on who you know. Whether you nobbed up your degree or not, that was your chance to schmooze with the management of the future - did you make any useful contacts? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I went to university late, as a 21 year old mature student and did a four year degree and came out and eventually ended up back in the industry I was in originally.
After travelling I decided to change my career direction, and did some more studying with practical experience, and then looked into doing another university course. Got accepted at both Reading uni and Bristol uni (where I would have been parting with £8k tuition fees (not including books, accommodation etc.) I sat and considered both places and decided to turn down both uni places, and find work where I would be able to do studies alongside work rather to be out of work and in debt.
Finding work was tough and slow, although I am now in a decent job where I could start building up a career and get some training. I have decided to hold fire on the additional education front, till I have been here at least a year, because the work is so involving and tiring, I'm not sure I could cope with study on top of a full time job.
My advice would be - before you plunge yourself into a new course, really dig deep and think about what it is you want to be doing for your career. Would a course really be the answer, because when you have to pay so much for it, and you have the potential to be in debt for the privilege, you need to be really sure.
Could you maybe find yourself gainful employment where you can get in-house training - potential to do study part-time. I think this might be a wise move, especially at the moment.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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Can someone explain to me what a 'career' is, and why it matters so much?
To me it's just a bullshit word, but seems to be a sticking point for a lot of people.
What do you actually want to do in your life?
Is qualifications (meaningless bits of paper, when broken down) actually going to help you achieve it, or do you just think that it will. As someone above observed, its mostly who you know, and what you can get yourself into.
Do you actually want a 'career' or do you just think you do, because it is what everyone else seems to have, and there is some unspoken pressure there?
| Quote: | Is there anyone here that has been in a similar situation as me? |
I don't know what I want to do with my life, still, but i'm not overly concerned by it, though I think about different things I could do all the time. I have no great drive to do a particular thing, and it doesn't worry me unduly.
I didn't go to Uni, despite being pushed in that direction by everyone, as you said you also found. I never really felt it was for me, and so I failed my A levels and didn't go. I joined the Navy instead, it didn't get me anywhere either. Except experiences and various mental health issues.
I sometimes consider re-doing my A levels and going on to a degree, just to say that i've done it, but I really don't know what it will achieve, apart from satisfying some pride thing. I much prefer the approach I have now, which is studying precisely what I wish to study, and nothing I don't, with no tests, and entirely for my own purposes.
| Quote: | What did you do about it? |
Did a HGV licence
| Quote: | What do you do for a living now, and do you enjoy it? |
Drive trucks, most guys my age who do this (I consider us the new breed, distinct from the old farts who have done it since the beginning of time and will soon be retiring), wish they did something else, but very few seem to be able to take that step, or simply don't consider they have many options to do anything else, or even know what they might want to do.
Don't enjoy it particularly, but don't hate it either, its bearable, it pays enough, and hopefully it always will. Although it will never go 'up' to special high places either.
There is a pressure in society (and there has always been) to do something meaningful, important, be validated by people, make a difference and earn lots. To be successful for the sake of it.
You might consider that a career is just a 'job' and that as long as it provides you with enough money, and you can tolerate doing it. It might be worth worrying about it less, and focusing on the other and arguably more important stuff in life.
I'm not saying this is the answer, but it's the way I think I try to look at it.
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| WildGoose wrote: | Can someone explain to me what a 'career' is, and why it matters so much? |
For me, career means working within a specific guise, getting formal training and possibly education, so that in the future (when too old to work overseas on a working visa), I can go into said country and work because I have the career-skills which they want.
I choose a specific career direction (twice), because I don't want to be doing any old crappy job, where I get no satisfaction, and hate the thought of going in each day (just to earn cash to survive). If I have to do work each day then I may as well do something that doesn't seem like work.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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| WildGoose wrote: | What do you actually want to do in your life?
Is qualifications (meaningless bits of paper, when broken down) actually going to help you achieve it, or do you just think that it will. As someone above observed, its mostly who you know, and what you can get yourself into.
Do you actually want a 'career' or do you just think you do, because it is what everyone else seems to have, and there is some unspoken pressure there? |
I'm in a similar situation to the last couple of posts, no fixed career ambitions, im currently working in a hospital for a reasonable wage. The career prospects would be going down the management path, but personally i think the NHS could use less managers and more front of house staff.
As far as taking medical training, 5-7 years later taking certain career paths can be very lucrative, i dont think i have the compassion to be a doctor nor the ability to stomach the discrepancy in salary compared to nurses (inc nurse practitioners, who are essentially GP's in all but name).
Agreed with WildGoose it's more important who you know than a degree or letters after your name when sliding your way up the slippery pole
I would like to run my own business, i just haven't found my niche at 26, how late is too late?
That said i still want to travel, just get a bike and fuckoff for a good while... ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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I went to Uni late I was 22 when I started my Nursing diploma. Did 2 years and had to discontinue due to health problems. I'm now waiting to go back to Uni in March 2012 after having various operations. I'll be 26 when I start my course.
Now When I was their previously, i was the 4th Youngest out a Cohort of 200, so a wide variety of ages.
Your never too old to retrain and get an education.
Some jobs, especially Nursing, I think requires a bit of general life experience before starting. I don't think id be able to cope with the major stresses and shocks you see on a ward as a fresh faced 18 year old.
Find a career path that really interests you and then look at what training and qualifications you need to do it.
Don't do what I did, I wanted to become a Nurse from a young age, but always thought I was too thick to become a Nurse. So I decided to become a bloody Travel agent and spent three years at college doing that. Luckily, the BTEC and A levels i gained from doing that enabled me to get onto my Nursing diploma, with a bit of Personal statement bullshitting from Mum who teaches Community nursing at the University I applied to.
My aim in life is to be a Nurse Practitioner, maybe in Oncology. Who knows. ____________________ JACK, MISS YOU LOADS YOU LEGEND. |
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I'm 18 and I guess in a fairly similar situation, I came out of college a few months ago with equivalent to 3 A's at A level and have had uni rammed down my throat for the last year.
But like what has already been said I don't think uni is the right option if you are unsure on what to do. I have no fucking clue, and think uni could be a huge loss of money / debt. So now I'm working in a very low job while I figure out what to do.
Better to be working than not... right?
It's weird someone mentioned HGV licence I was thinkning of that the other day..
Fuck it, I don't know either.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 113 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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