Self Prep'd DAS

[KingKong]

Hello

I can borrow a friend's big bike and get insured for the unrestricted Mod.1 & 2 tests.

Question is, in getting to a from the test centre what do I need to do in order to be legal, without going via a training school? What are the 'technicalities', please?

Currently on A2 license; yes, you were correct, I will sooner get fed up and want to do DAS
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[Englishman]

Unless you have a van, or a trailer that you can strap the bike to, you're going to have to ride pillion with your friend on his bike. The only way that a non-licensed rider can ride a bigger bike is on L plates, in radio contact with a DSA-registered instructor.
Pillion is probably your best bet.

[anthony_r6]

As long as you're insured correctly on it, and have the correct gear on (for their requirements) you should be fine. I assume you'll have to prove your insured though.

Misread...

Yes, you can't ride that bike without an instructor with you - in radio contact. As above - pillion or meet your friend there on your own bike?
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[Rogerborg]

[Okeydokey]

As a matter of interest
If your 'mate' rides the bike there the night before and locks it up for you and hands you the key the night before. Perhaps when you turn up in a car, or are given a lift you can unlock the bike for your own convenience?
Similarly if things didn't go well, pushing the bike out of the test centre and locking it up so your mate can collect it later, just an idea/question and purely hypothetically
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[KingKong]

All very helpful, people; thank you
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[mike_wall15]

I'll need to do exactly the same thing in a few months, luckily my dad has a full license and can ride us there.

Funny thing is, I've had more recent bike experience than him as he hasn't ridden for a good 10 years!

Good luck with it

[BikerGirlonGi...]

Hi there, new to all this.

Good question by the poster and some alright responses tho some sound far too geeky...like where are your balls?

Ok ok ok, say King Kong (WTF) turns up on a big bike for the test with a so called qualified instructor, will the examiner actually check that the instructor IS who he/she is supposed to be? If so, what checks are made?

[hedgehugger]

It's not so much needing a 'qualified instructor', it is about getting the bike there legally. As in he wouldn't have the correct license to turn up on the bike, and then do the test (unless he is a pillion).
Lots of people pass tests without instructors.

[BikerGirlonGi...]

yeah true but dont they check that the candidate got there legally or do they leave that to be an assumption and mind their own business - testing the candidate on Mod whatever?

[Rogerborg]

Entirely depends on the examiner. They shouldn't care about anything outside of the actual test, but they could take an interest as a concerned citizen, and remember, the test is almost entirely subjective and there's an informal "attitude" portion. The examiner can be looking for reasons to fail you before you even get on the bike.

Also, please note carefully what the OP asked about.
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[BikerGirlonGi...]

[KingKong]

I passed a restricted licence test. Trying to afford a full licence and friend has agreed to lend his GSXR 600 for the tests. Would the examiners mind or be bothered that I'll be using a sports bike and not the conventional cb 500 etc?

If not, would they want evidence that the bike meets the minimum Kw standard, and if so, what's the best method to prove this?

I recall that when I did the 'A2' on my own bike they were not interested in seeing my insurance docs, just had to sign a slip promising that the bike was sufficiently insured and legal.

Thanks for your help here peeps
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[Rogerborg]

[KingKong]

Thank you, great help!

On the licence thing, would police & insurance accept my restricted licence accompanied by unrestricted pass certificate?

Also, how does the DVLA screw up the dates? Passed restricted licence in Oct, so if pass within the next month or two will I lose out on the dates?

Much appreciated
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[rtho782]

[Rogerborg]

More details on the DVLA's pass date shenanigans over here.

Look after your original A2 test pass certificate, is the point to take away, and be prepared to argue the toss with insurers about when you obtained category A.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[P.addy]

[KingKong]

One more question (sorry):

Because the big bike is out of my licence category, when I ride it with an instructor to the test, I will have to slap on the L plates. Will I need to have a black tape stuck across it diagonally? I have seen some bikes with such L plates - not sure what that means.

Thank you.

PS. Rogerborg, you are the best
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[Rogerborg]

You don't need an instructor with you. Your friend can ride the bike there, you can get there any way you like (pillion, on your own bike). All that matters is that the bike that you sit the test on is 35KW+, insured, and displaying L plates.

It makes sense to fit the plates beforehand rather than fiddling at the test centre. The black tape is put on when someone other than you (i.e. with an appropriate license) is riding it. When you're on it, the plates should be clearly visible.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[KingKong]

[rtho782]

[KingKong]

Thank you, rtho782

It's just as well that I will have an understanding instructor escort me there. I don't want to risk losing my bike and/or licence, hence why I am doing things legitimately and taking the unrestricted test so I may truly be free to ride any bike and enjoy

Rogerborg, if ever I may be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me
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Kwak 636 (2005)

Past - 2016 Ninja 300 (dark grey); K4 GSXR 600 (sexy yellow); 2002 CBR600FS; 2004 GSXR 1000; 2006 Kwak 636; 2005 Yamaha XVS 1100 Dragstar (facepalm); 2005 Kwak 636; 2011 Yamaha R125.

[Rogerborg]

Well, technically, you're looking at Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999 Section 16.

[BikerGirlonGi...]