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Get my cbf 125 on Wednesday insurance purchased (1k) I noticed Honda now quote 160 mpg :o in wmtc mode what is that???
Previously the cbf 125 was quoted at 134 mpg and people were actually seeing 125 mpg so how accurate is the new figure I wonder?? Will premium fuels eg bp ultimate shell v power make a difference to consumption and/or performance???
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I found that Honda were a little... 'Ambitious' with their MPG estimate. A full tank will probably last me 250 - 300 miles, depending on how I drive, but its not bad fuel economy at all.
Just for the record, I use ASDA petrol, probably not the best to use but it does the job. I have used BP Ultimate for a few fill-ups and haven't noticed any difference, its supposedly cleaner for your engine.  ____________________ CBT Passed - 22 / 10 / 11 >> Theory Passed - 16 / 02 / 2012 >> Mod 1 Passed - 07 / 03 / 2012 >> Mod 2 Passed - 18 / 05 / 2012. |
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Twin shocks, bloody hell, I didn't realise they made bikes with twin shocks anymore  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Thats alright. I hear they're fairly easy to install, might be worth installing it youself so you have a basic idea of motorcycle electronics? Thats what I will be doing.  ____________________ CBT Passed - 22 / 10 / 11 >> Theory Passed - 16 / 02 / 2012 >> Mod 1 Passed - 07 / 03 / 2012 >> Mod 2 Passed - 18 / 05 / 2012. |
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Don't bother with premium fuel.
Cyclone v2 is fine, have 2 of them myself  |
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Yeah most likely, as I said, I'm probably not right on that one I think you can just put a xenon bulb in though, you should be able to. Another forum member feel free to jump in.  ____________________ CBT Passed - 22 / 10 / 11 >> Theory Passed - 16 / 02 / 2012 >> Mod 1 Passed - 07 / 03 / 2012 >> Mod 2 Passed - 18 / 05 / 2012. |
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I feel my ears burning....
Okay... fuel - take a look at my stats, regarding fuel economy for the CBF: https://www.fuelly.com/driver/cbf125rider/cbf125
I haven't noticed any difference in economy using higher octane petrol or supermarket stuff, BUT I found the bike easier to start on 95 octane fuels, whilst taking a couple of attempts with Shell V-Power. Performance - I couldn't notice any difference, I get about 65mph tops, on the GPS, which is about 70 on the speedometer. It's worth noting that they over-read by about 10%. I've mostly been using Tesco unleaded lately.
I also have the 2011 CBF, owned since new . I'm blogging my experiences as well - https://cbf125rider.wordpress.com/ - and some how-to's for the more techy service tasks, like doing the valve clearances and engine oil strainer. I am doing all the servicing myself, apart from the first 600 mile service, which was done by the dealer. I've now done 3 services, and have clocked up 8'100 miles. The workshop manual has now been leaked on-line, and servicing these bikes is quite straightforward, as long as you know your spanners from your screwdrivers.
I personally find the headlamp to be pretty decent, but I previously rode a YBR125 which had an awful headlamp and krypton bulb. The beam coverage on the CBF is much wider and the reflector is a much better design, more modern and hi-tech (multi-reflector). The bulb is also a halogen 35/35W. I haven't felt any need to upgrade. The running lights (headlamp, aux lamp, tail light, dash backlights and full beam tell-tale) are all powered directly from the alternator, and are AC as a result. This means converting to HID is a little difficult as you'll need to re-wire that circuit for DC. Not impossible and people have done it successfully. I also know of someone who put a 55W halogen bulb in and they say it's an improvement. I personally wouldn't want to put extra demands on the alternator, extra current load on the lighting circuit, nor extra heat in the headlamp shell itself.
The Cyclone V2 is also excellent on this bike - you can use all the features and it's not too difficult to wire in, just a bit fiddly getting to the wires on the bike's loom in order to splice the alarm's ones into it. Don't use the blue snap connectors, but solder things in place properly and use heat-shrink and electrical tape to make things good afterwards. Do it properly and it should be reliable. I haven't had any issues with it, probably done over 3'000 miles with it now, some in pissing rain (remember yesterday?). It's been fantastic, and many of the good folks of BCF also swear by them.
Is it worth £2'500? I don't think so, to be honest, but then again, my commute is costing just over half of what it would if I was using the train, which includes all the running costs (tax, insurance, petrol, servicing) and finance on the bike too.
A couple of years ago you could get a new one for £2'000 or thereabouts. My 2005 YBR was £1'500 and lasted well. There are aspects of the CBF that suggest cost cutting, such as the chain developing surface rust quickly, much more quickly than DID chains I've had on my old bike. Also, when I checked the engine oil strainer at 7'500 miles, it had quite a bit of fluffy material in it - I've been reliably informed that it's likely to be clutch friction material and shouldn't have been there at all, in that quantity. Here's what it looked like:
https://125ccbikeclub.awardspace.co.uk/images/CBF125_Oil_Strainer.jpg
As for the centrifugal filter, I couldn't open it because the screws were too tight and actually broke my impact driver bit when I tried, leaving a small piece wedged in the screw head! It's still there now as I couldn't remove it, so it was hammered in, peening the edges of the screw head over it, with a blob of Loctite on top for good measure.
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| neil. wrote: | I feel my ears burning....
Okay... fuel - take a look at my stats, regarding fuel economy for the CBF: https://www.fuelly.com/driver/cbf125rider/cbf125
I haven't noticed any difference in economy using higher octane petrol or supermarket stuff, BUT I found the bike easier to start on 95 octane fuels, whilst taking a couple of attempts with Shell V-Power. Performance - I couldn't notice any difference, I get about 65mph tops, on the GPS, which is about 70 on the speedometer. It's worth noting that they over-read by about 10%. I've mostly been using Tesco unleaded lately.
I also have the 2011 CBF, owned since new  . I'm blogging my experiences as well - https://cbf125rider.wordpress.com/ - and some how-to's for the more techy service tasks, like doing the valve clearances and engine oil strainer. I am doing all the servicing myself, apart from the first 600 mile service, which was done by the dealer. I've now done 3 services, and have clocked up 8'100 miles. The workshop manual has now been leaked on-line, and servicing these bikes is quite straightforward, as long as you know your spanners from your screwdrivers.
I personally find the headlamp to be pretty decent, but I previously rode a YBR125 which had an awful headlamp and krypton bulb. The beam coverage on the CBF is much wider and the reflector is a much better design, more modern and hi-tech (multi-reflector). The bulb is also a halogen 35/35W. I haven't felt any need to upgrade. The running lights (headlamp, aux lamp, tail light, dash backlights and full beam tell-tale) are all powered directly from the alternator, and are AC as a result. This means converting to HID is a little difficult as you'll need to re-wire that circuit for DC. Not impossible and people have done it successfully. I also know of someone who put a 55W halogen bulb in and they say it's an improvement. I personally wouldn't want to put extra demands on the alternator, extra current load on the lighting circuit, nor extra heat in the headlamp shell itself.
The Cyclone V2 is also excellent on this bike - you can use all the features and it's not too difficult to wire in, just a bit fiddly getting to the wires on the bike's loom in order to splice the alarm's ones into it. Don't use the blue snap connectors, but solder things in place properly and use heat-shrink and electrical tape to make things good afterwards. Do it properly and it should be reliable. I haven't had any issues with it, probably done over 3'000 miles with it now, some in pissing rain (remember yesterday?). It's been fantastic, and many of the good folks of BCF also swear by them.
Is it worth £2'500? I don't think so, to be honest, but then again, my commute is costing just over half of what it would if I was using the train, which includes all the running costs (tax, insurance, petrol, servicing) and finance on the bike too.
A couple of years ago you could get a new one for £2'000 or thereabouts. My 2005 YBR was £1'500 and lasted well. There are aspects of the CBF that suggest cost cutting, such as the chain developing surface rust quickly, much more quickly than DID chains I've had on my old bike. Also, when I checked the engine oil strainer at 7'500 miles, it had quite a bit of fluffy material in it - I've been reliably informed that it's likely to be clutch friction material and shouldn't have been there at all, in that quantity. Here's what it looked like:
https://125ccbikeclub.awardspace.co.uk/images/CBF125_Oil_Strainer.jpg
As for the centrifugal filter, I couldn't open it because the screws were too tight and actually broke my impact driver bit when I tried, leaving a small piece wedged in the screw head! It's still there now as I couldn't remove it, so it was hammered in, peening the edges of the screw head over it, with a blob of Loctite on top for good measure. |
I can't solder and I was under the impression that no wires had to be cut? I think I'm gonna use the dealer for servicing I have 0 experience what so ever, I did come accross your blog through google I was the guy who wanted to know about that iPhone dock wired to the battery |
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If you are close enough I'll happily service it for you if you provide the parts.
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