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PostPosted: 15:49 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Holy mother of god. Reply with quote

New bike arrived

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Coming up from a VL 125, this bike is absolutely mental! It is restricted, but jesus, this is crazy, the acceleration is ridiculous. I'm sure this is just because I'm coming from a 125 (and a cruisery 125 at that) but still...I feel like a little kid Laughing

The bike does have some cosmetic damage. Don't think I'm gonna replace any of the outer fairings, fairly sure I'll drop this at some point, thing is bloody heavy! But if anyone has those inner fairings (around the clock & glovebox section) I would be interested.

Overall: very pleased, annoyed as hell that I have to do revision for my exams that come up in a week instead of going and emptying the tank!
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice ride! Very Happy Like the colour.

Happy New Bike Day! Smile
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Babba wrote:
Enjoy it, I remember my days of working up the performance ladder.

The jump from 125 to 600 is NOTHING compared to getting your legover your first 1000cc+.


Try not to throw too much money at any new bike untill you're sure you're keeping it & it's worthy of spending £wonga on.
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I'll be keeping this bike for atleast 2 years to ride out my restriction on I think, and maybe a little beyond, lets see how I get on with it. I need to sort 2 things out immediately though, get a double bubble screen (never went fast enough on the 125 to even think I would ever want one) and mess around with the rear brake pedal, currently my foot is forced into a very acute angle, so need to point that brake down a bit.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tidy enough bike - great for a first big bike I'd say. If you have cracks in the fairings and don't want to bother changing them, get down to your local double-glazing shop and buy a pot of their cyano glue, it's just thick superglue but it cures more slowly and is a lot stronger. I glued my ZZR1100 fairings up with that stuff and they were badly cracked like a spiders web.

Go easy on it until you get used to the speed and keep your stopping distance. Enjoy.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice bike and nice color! ZZR600 is one of the best middle class long tourer. Shame kawasaki doesn't make it anymore.
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Tidy enough bike - great for a first big bike I'd say. If you have cracks in the fairings and don't want to bother changing them, get down to your local double-glazing shop and buy a pot of their cyano glue, it's just thick superglue but it cures more slowly and is a lot stronger. I glued my ZZR1100 fairings up with that stuff and they were badly cracked like a spiders web.
Thanks for the tip, will look into it. But most of the damage is just scratches, only one maybe 2 cracks.

I actually want to change the colour to all black...but gonna ride it like this for a while, until I'm confident enough and practised enough to give spraying the panels myself a go.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly soiled myself with glee after my first go on the bike schools XJ6 after coming from a 125 vero.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Holy mother of god. Reply with quote

Looks lovely, probably more bike than I'd ever use though.


moppy wrote:
It is restricted


Is it? Are you sure?
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That plastic panel just below the little glovebox thing cracks at the first sign of any pressure on the side of the bike, as mentioned above, glue it and don't worry about it, you'll just crack it again the first time you clip something or drop the bike Thumbs Up

Pps good choice, they look a little old and lardy but the motor is right up there with the GSXRs and ZX6s of the day. Wait till you take the restriction out, the mid range/top end rush on it will feel insane.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely, a ZZR without a psychadelic paint scheme, how did that slip through!

I wouldn't change it unless you are getting it professionally done or are very good at spraying. Even with scratches, it will look better than a home paint job.

Nice 1st big bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 07 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Roger - It is a lotta bike, but it makes biking so much more pleasurable than pushing a 125 to 60mph with a full throttle just to keep up on fast A road. Not checked if it's restricted, but the guy who sold it to me seemed genuine, and it seems to have been restricted for a while too (according to the certificate). Also it seems to struggle to rev past 10K. Which is not what I've heard about the bikes.

@Seb, cheers for the heads up, I was considering replacing it, but if it is that delicate, might as well just glue it and live with that. And the old and lardy nature is exactly why I wanted this bike, I can't stand all the pointy fairings and stuff, need to be comfortable Laughing

@Polarbear - Yup, I consider myself very lucky, not a fan of those garish reds & purples I usually see on this bike!
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb wrote:
That plastic panel just below the little glovebox thing cracks at the first sign of any pressure on the side of the bike, as mentioned above, glue it and don't worry about it, you'll just crack it again the first time you clip something or drop the bike Thumbs Up


Not true.

I chucked my bike down the road at over 40mph and the fairing inners were completely intact.

I dropped the bike at a standstill and cracked them.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Holy mother of god. Reply with quote

Wait until you try and an actually fast (not restricted bike)! Modern litre bike will accelerate at least as fast faster at 100mph as yours does at 10mph I reckon Smile.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grats on the bike. Looks tidy enough. And as many said, dont worry too much about the cosmetic side of things. The chances are it will get dropped or laid down at some point until you get used to the extra weight and higher seat.

I came off a 125 cruiser onto an old 750 unrestricted and I would imagine even restricted there is something special about riding down the road overtaking the traffic rather than being overtaken by the traffic.

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PostPosted: 17:03 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks decent enough. Only thing I don't like is the awful "el-cheapo" EBC front discs which look fuck all like the OEM ones.
And they're pitted too, got an advisory on the MOT, so will be looking into doing something about them in the near future (before summer).

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I came off a 125 cruiser onto an old 750 unrestricted and I would imagine even restricted there is something special about riding down the road overtaking the traffic rather than being overtaken by the traffic.

God yes. I can now safely and confidently overtake people doing 50mph in a 60mph in a matter of seconds rather than wait for a mile long stretch of straight road and rev the 125 in 4th until it feels like it's gonna blow up under me.

Saying that though, the ZZR does have a very evident flat spot at about 4K from what I can tell, and I keep changing down, when all I need to do is rev it past 4K. At which point it goes like shit off a shovel.


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Wait until you try and an actually fast (not restricted bike)! Modern litre bike will accelerate at least as fast faster at 100mph as yours does at 10mph I reckon .


I'm very glad I still have craziness like that to look forward to, just getting this bike unrestricted in 2 years will be a pleasant shock to the system I think. Because of the restriction, it stops revving at about 10-11K and I've heard it can hit the 14K redline and still push on...

Speaking of revs though, coming off a V-twin engine, the inline four makes me think I'm working the bike too hard! Anything above 7K, I feel like I'm damaging it when I know it can do much much more! Still thinking about the old bike I guess...
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't damage it, especially not with it being restricted so rev the nuts off it if the situation calls for more power!
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:

Speaking of revs though, coming off a V-twin engine, the inline four makes me think I'm working the bike too hard! Anything above 7K, I feel like I'm damaging it when I know it can do much much more! Still thinking about the old bike I guess...

It's more getting used to the power I suspect.
When I came off a KLR650 on to a (full power) ZX6R I found myself changing up at about 7k rpm - so about red line on the old bike and probably making only a little more power on the new bike than peak power on the KLR. Revving to 14 and of course it really took off, which was nice while the 'wow' factor lasted Smile.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:
BLUEX5 wrote:
Looks decent enough. Only thing I don't like is the awful "el-cheapo" EBC front discs which look fuck all like the OEM ones.
And they're pitted too, got an advisory on the MOT, so will be looking into doing something about them in the near future (before summer).


Check some of the ZZR specific forums. I'm sure there is guides to sticking older fireblade Nissins on a ZZR. By all accounts they are vastly better than getting OEM or EBC replacements.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Holy mother of god. Reply with quote

Nice bike Thumbs Up .


I loved my first ride on my (unrestricted) CBR600, came back grinning like a pedo at playschool.

Very nearly shat myself tbh, I couldn't believe bikes were allowed to be that fast, still riding it now and it still surprises me how quick it can move when revved up properly.


That said, it isn't a race, enjoy the bike as a learning tool, take it steady and increase your pace gradually or it can quickly get out of hand. Have fun Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:

Saying that though, the ZZR does have a very evident flat spot at about 4K from what I can tell, and I keep changing down, when all I need to do is rev it past 4K. At which point it goes like shit off a shovel.


The ZZR doesn't have a flatspot at 4k rpm. Or, I should say "shouldn't" have a flat spot there.

It'll be likely due to either your restrictor washers, random aftermarket exhausts or your carbs need balanced or you have an exhaust leak.

All the flat spots people talk about on the ZZR's are mostly due to people ignorantly replacing their exhausts for 4 into 1 and don't adjust the fuelling to suit.

I realise you have a 4 into 2 system, but those cans aren't stock.

EDIT: wait a minute, they do look like the stock cans but someone has just painted them black. Laughing

I'd put any flatspots down to the bike being restricted or something minor wrong with the bike.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluezedd wrote:

I realise you have a 4 into 2 system, but those cans aren't stock.

EDIT: wait a minute, they do look like the stock cans but someone has just painted them black. Laughing


Interesting. Quick look and I am not convinced they are originals painted black (possible, but the back seems too shiney for some old cans painted up). However the main section of the exhaust looks rather too light very mildly corroded bare metal to be the original quick rot Kawasaki exhaust.

Wonder if the 4>2 has been replaced. Although my first guess would have been Delkevic (ie, D&K) and they only do link pipes and silencers rather than a full set of down pipes

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PostPosted: 13:02 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the jump from 33bhp-98bhp was far more impressive than 10ish to 33.

Wait till you take the restrictors out.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting to wonder if it is actually restricted, found a very open stretch of road today and it certainly revved up to 14K (only in 1st mind, too scared to do it in 2nd) and seems like it will crack 100 fairly easily. But I expect it would be a bit madder if it wasn't restricted.

About the exhausts, the back is definitely very shiny, washed the bike today and was surprised myself. And there certainly is a flat spot around 3.5k - 4k. So further pointing towards restrictors.

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Check some of the ZZR specific forums. I'm sure there is guides to sticking older fireblade Nissins on a ZZR. By all accounts they are vastly better than getting OEM or EBC replacements.
Something I do plan to do at some point, but it's the discs that seem to be the problem right now, not the calipers. So need to replace the discs (what are the other options with pitted discs?) and then think about new calipers.


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Very nearly shat myself tbh, I couldn't believe bikes were allowed to be that fast, still riding it now and it still surprises me how quick it can move when revved up properly.
Seriously, it is bloody difficult to not rev it up every chance you get as well since the bike seems so much happier at high revs instead of being an asthmatic cow at 1-4K.

Cleaned the bike, cleaned & lubed the chain today. Ran out of chain wax though, so need to buy something to lube it with. Engine oil seems the cheapest option, will probably go with that instead of the ludicrously expensive specialised stuff like Wurth.
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