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| Rogerborg |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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 Posted: 11:06 - 05 Jan 2012 Post subject: Paying off a credit agreement early? |
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I did this about a decade ago, but wanted to check with the civil law / collections goon types about whether it's still viable.
My plan is to buy a car on "credit" from Dodgy Dan's Cut and Shut Shack, accept whatever usurious rate of interest that they want to charge in return for a lower total figure (but a high monthly repayment), then drive home and pay off the credit in full - because I am considerably richer than yow.
I recall last time that I incurred an admin charge (£20 or £25 or so) for doing this but otherwise just paid off the headline figure, not any of the interest.
However, things may have changed since then, so I wanted to get a heads up on whether it's still viable, or whether I'm likely to get stitched up by pre-applied interest, i.e. I think that I'm "borrowing" £5K but the amount owed immediately is actually £7.5K or so.
I can and do read contracts, I'm just looking for a heads up about the current state of the credit market and whether I'm likely to find a "borrow £5K, pay back £5K" deal out there today.
[UPDATE]
Eh, never mind, found it.
Consumer Credit Act 1974 section 66A: I can cancel within 14 days without reason, repay the loan amount plus only the accrued interest (pennies, and with no added fees or charges) and get title to the vehicle even if it's sold under a hire-purchase agreement.
Man, usurers just can't catch a break these days.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| mrtEE |
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| Kwaks |
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 Posted: 18:47 - 05 Jan 2012 Post subject: |
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" I can cancel within 14 days without reason, repay the loan amount plus only the accrued interest (pennies, and with no added fees or charges) and get title to the vehicle even if it's sold under a hire-purchase agreement. "
If it was signed on their premises.
But yes, generally can cancel after gaining a discount from the retailer due to him getting a backhander from the finance company.
If you miss the 14 day window on it, and restrictions apply to overpaying, then the best way out is to pay half the balance each month. ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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| Rogerborg |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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| flat spot wrote: | If you've got the money why not pay cash or am I missing something? |
Because you don't get a discount for paying cash except from the very dodgiest or most desperate of geezers.
There are plenty of places still offering high rate finance though, over 4 or 5 years. For example, £5000 at 15% over 5 years results in you repaying £7137, or 43% profit for the financer. Some places make their money on the finance deals rather than the cars by preying on the desperate or arithmetically challenged.
So the idea is to score a deal that results in a low purchase price in return for taking a loan which would (if paid monthly) result in repaying far more than the car's value.
Then you pay it off straight away, score a good deal, and screw over a mugger who thought he was stiffing a rube. all round. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| DrDonnyBrago |
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Good idea, please let me know how it turns out.
I don't generally buy from dealers but that is a nice trick to keep in mind for future.
Cheers
Would the loan amount be for the ticket price of the car, or the price plus interest? Would that be something to look out for in the fine print? |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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It looks like you should be able to pay off the loan in any reasonable way.
And it shouldn't be too much hassle, since the statute looks fairly clear about the unconditional right to cancel within 14 days. Just phrase it as a clear instruction by email and/or recorded delivery letter.
Of course, a dodgy financier could simply try to ignore the instruction to cancel, but with the direct debit also cancelled, what are they going to do then? Demand their money back? I've already offered to pay it.
However, I'd be sure to park the car elsewhere until I have clear title, in case Dodgy Dan decides he'd rather have the car instead of the money.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Oooh, nicely spotted.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Nice one Roger, I will bear this in mind when at the dealership next month  ____________________ '02 ER-5
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 23 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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