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 Posted: 14:29 - 27 Jan 2012 Post subject: Buying advice - 97 monster 750 |
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I'm probably going to take a look at a '97 Ducati monster 750. Other than the basics does anyone know of anything I should look out for on one of these?
It's going to be a donor for my fiat 500 project so the general condition is not too important but the mechanicals are. Although I will be parting out the bits I don't need so valuable parts are still a consideration. ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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 Posted: 14:44 - 27 Jan 2012 Post subject: Re: Buying advice - 97 monster 750 |
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| daemonoid wrote: | I'm probably going to take a look at a '97 Ducati monster 750. Other than the basics does anyone know of anything I should look out for on one of these?
It's going to be a donor for my fiat 500 project so the general condition is not too important but the mechanicals are. Although I will be parting out the bits I don't need so valuable parts are still a consideration. |
The motors are pretty strong but guttless, it is only about 60bhp I think. It's usually everything else that goes tits up on them. If you are lumping the engine in to your car, if you give it a full service including belts your shouldn't have much to worry about.
TBH I don't think much is in demand the suspension is pretty cheap and basic, but you might get lucky selling the front end to a cheap street fighter builder.
A lot of the 600 Monsters didn't have a left? calliper, you might get some money for the dual disc set up (Discs, MC, lines, and callipers)
Would it not be worth going for a M900? I'm pretty sure they are more common than the 750 not more weight and produce more power. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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 Posted: 14:55 - 27 Jan 2012 Post subject: Re: Buying advice - 97 monster 750 |
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| chris-red wrote: | | daemonoid wrote: | I'm probably going to take a look at a '97 Ducati monster 750. Other than the basics does anyone know of anything I should look out for on one of these?
It's going to be a donor for my fiat 500 project so the general condition is not too important but the mechanicals are. Although I will be parting out the bits I don't need so valuable parts are still a consideration. |
The motors are pretty strong but guttless, it is only about 60bhp I think. It's usually everything else that goes tits up on them. If you are lumping the engine in to your car, if you give it a full service including belts your shouldn't have much to worry about.
TBH I don't think much is in demand the suspension is pretty cheap and basic, but you might get lucky selling the front end to a cheap street fighter builder.
A lot of the 600 Monsters didn't have a left? calliper, you might get some money for the dual disc set up (Discs, MC, lines, and callipers)
Would it not be worth going for a M900? I'm pretty sure they are more common than the 750 not more weight and produce more power. |
Actually slightly more than that BHP wise take into account that all Ducati horsepower figures are quoted at the rear wheel not at the fly wheel like other bikes, so it is actually *checks web* 53bhp ATRW, I thought my Duke was slow.
Mecahnically pretty good but that is providing there is full service history with either Ducati or some Italian specialists that knows what they are doing, bear in mind the 1997 bike will be pre rocker upgrade, so if they haven't been checked and regularly looked after if they go, big big bill, as in cheaper to buy second hand engine.
Get the engine checked over thoroughly though.
I assume you're doing a bike engine car? If so don't bother putting a Duke lump in there, phrase "waste of time" comes to mind, next door to me had a very light Micra with a CBR1000 engine in it, was classed as mediocre in performance just sounds like you're going fast.
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What bits?
The engine is considered a good one, although low in power. Smooth power delivery helped by the use of carbs.
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Hi
The 750 is the older engine, closely related to the 600, and the old Pantah 600 and 500 engines, while the 900 is based on the somewhat updated engine from the late 1980s. 6 speed gearbox, but incorporating a lot of changes intended for the water cool 906 Paso and the 851 engines.
That said not sure there are major problems with either. Heard stories about excessive wear on the lower cylinder, and cylinder head bolts giving up on the 900.
If you land up buying a later fuel injected bike that has the immobiliser system (not sure exactly which models, but includes things like the Monster S4) then make sure you get the master key.
All the best
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| Kickstart wrote: | Hi
The 750 is the older engine, closely related to the 600, and the old Pantah 600 and 500 engines, while the 900 is based on the somewhat updated engine from the late 1980s. 6 speed gearbox, but incorporating a lot of changes intended for the water cool 906 Paso and the 851 engines.
That said not sure there are major problems with either. Heard stories about excessive wear on the lower cylinder, and cylinder head bolts giving up on the 900.
If you land up buying a later fuel injected bike that has the immobiliser system (not sure exactly which models, but includes things like the Monster S4) then make sure you get the master key.
All the best
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The original 750 is the older engine, the 750SS with the fuel injection has a few revised parts on it, like I say with the oil leak, if I had the older 750SS it would involve taking something off ( I forget) and the only way to put that nut back on is by taking the engine apart.
The 750SS I have has no immobiliser system thankfully, but try and get the FI model, it is better than the carbed version  ____________________ Stinkwheel: You have no right to free speech
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Well I did it! £1650 for the bike 7700 miles and looked spotless. Duc performance exhausts too! Will post some pics as soon as I have a real net connection. ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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Would be a tragic waste of a lovely bike. I'd offer a straight swap for my Firestorm lump but I love the Storm too much to warrant parting with it, even for a Ducati Monster.
But it is a "This close to offering" scenario.
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It has about half the power of your storm  ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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 Posted: 14:51 - 31 Jan 2012 Post subject: Re: Buying advice - 97 monster 750 |
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Actually slightly more than that BHP wise take into account that all Ducati horsepower figures are quoted at the rear wheel not at the fly wheel like other bikes, so it is actually *checks web* 53bhp ATRW, I thought my Duke was slow.
Mecahnically pretty good but that is providing there is full service history with either Ducati or some Italian specialists that knows what they are doing, bear in mind the 1997 bike will be pre rocker upgrade, so if they haven't been checked and regularly looked after if they go, big big bill, as in cheaper to buy second hand engine.
Get the engine checked over thoroughly though.
I assume you're doing a bike engine car? If so don't bother putting a Duke lump in there, phrase "waste of time" comes to mind, next door to me had a very light Micra with a CBR1000 engine in it, was classed as mediocre in performance just sounds like you're going fast.
Better bike engines out there for a bike project than a low power V twin  |
The Micra had mediocre performance with a CBR1000 engine in it? Sounds odd. |
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I've seen a few Monster 1000/1100 DS motors about ____________________ Bikes : 2006 CBR125R - 2004 Monster 620ie - 2004 ZX-6R B1H - 2005 Monster S2R 800 - 2011 Street Triple - 2009 Streetfighter 1098 - 2014 ZX-6R 636
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