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Lupine Lacuna
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Alternatives to the Ducati Monster? Reply with quote

Spring is coming and I am looking to buy another bike. I want a naked v twin. Not an option to go and test ride a Ducati Monster unless I travel to Jersey, but before I do so (where they have lots more bikes than here) what should I also consider?

Guzzi Griso might be a bit too much.

I cannot think of any other option.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aprilia Shiver?? But if you want a bike you have to travel!
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, alternative to a Monster.... So you need something slow, noisy, vibratory, unreliable, overpriced and ugly..... A hard one, let me ponder. Nope can't think of anything that bad at the moment unless you count an 883 Harley.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:55 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My choice from Ham's list would be the GSR. Good looking bike, although give me a screaming inline 4 anyday. CB1000R for me next. If I can find one. I've got a mate with a bike shop and he says they're rarer than hens teeth, a nightmare to acquire and hold their value like nowt else. I still want though...
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the Shiver is the answer, of course, how could I forget. Every review I read basically implies it is the better bike. Just doesn't look as cool and old skool.

GSR750, I like it, but its IL4.

And I know in this category there isn't much else really to beat the Street Triple, but its still a revvy bike.

I like the bandit, in many ways, but since it had been sorted out, its no longer run to ride. Its very predictable. When its carbs were full of gunk, it used to do all sort of unpredictable things. Now I have to ride it fast to get any kind of the same enjoyment. Before, I didnt know what it was going to do, let out a massive exhuast pop, have flat spots. It was cool.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
Hmmm, alternative to a Monster.... So you need something slow, noisy, vibratory, unreliable, overpriced and ugly..... A hard one, let me ponder. Nope can't think of anything that bad at the moment unless you count an 883 Harley.


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To the OP - how about a guzzi V7
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Styling is the opposite to the Moto Guzzi and Monster "classic" look but thought about the BMW F800R? Ok it's a parallel twin, not a Vee, but it seems to be regarded as a better bike both to ride and to live with.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait which Monster are you comparing too? They are all a little different
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was considering the 796, can't see the point in the 1100, but the single swing arm of the 796 is a no brainer above the 696 Smile
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I was considering the 796, can't see the point in the 1100, but the single swing arm of the 796 is a no brainer above the 696 Smile


I think the 796 is a good one to go for because it has the wet clutch which is a lot lighter and lasts longer especially if you ride in town a lot BUT currently the best of the lot is the 1100 Evo which has a wet clutch, TC and ABS. If you're buying new I would say the 1100 Evo but if you're going second hand then the 796 or 1100S

You can always check out ukmonster if you need more info Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
Hmmm, alternative to a Monster.... So you need something slow, noisy, vibratory, unreliable, overpriced and ugly..... A hard one, let me ponder. Nope can't think of anything that bad at the moment unless you count an 883 Harley.


Slow? not really,80bhp &<200kg, there are faster bikes, but it is not a slow 600

Vibratory? Not modern ones, and no more so than any other v twin.

Noisy? Yes, of course, it's a Ducati, who the hell wants a quiet Ducati?

Overpriced? There's the Ducati premium, yes, I will give you that, but the components are very good quality and overall the build quality is very underrated, haggle and there are great deals to be had

Ugly? If you say so, but I don't agree, I think it's a great looking bike (especially the 796)
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1000/1100DS engine is my favourite Ducati engine and probably favourite engine of any make. It's a simple 2 valve motor, no water cooling, belt change in 30-45mins, very good on fuel and mile munches easily.

I don't know where this rubbish about reliability came from. I can say from my 'trade' experience that less engine rebuilds/warranty issues/recalls were done with Ducati that any other brand I have worked for. After working with BMW alot I wouldn't touch one, and like many others thought they were ment to be something built with reliability in mind, their all shit, no manufactor is, some models (not makes!) are worse than others. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you are a fucking pro rider, Busa, all the way
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:


Noisy? Yes, of course, it's a Ducati, who the hell wants a quiet Ducati?

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Amen.
Wet clutches are for pussys.... free the rattle.....
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop reading.

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Stop surfing.

Go out and do.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilldic_mossy wrote:


Amen.
Wet clutches are for pussys.... free the rattle.....


I've had 2 Ducati's and not a dry clutch in sight Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:

And I know in this category there isn't much else really to beat the Street Triple, but its still a revvy bike.

Gear it the same as an 800 monster and I suspect the triumph would have loads more low-down go.

Have you ridden a street triple?
I thought the 675 had a pretty flat delivery.

Don't think that high rpm figures dictate 'revvyness'. For instance the TRX850 only revs to 8k rpm, but perhaps thanks to it's 5 valve head you need to be over half revs to be making decent progress, so it needs a pretty 'revvy' riding style.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Street triple isn't a revvy bike. You don't need to wring it's neck to play, but you can if you want to Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klause wrote:
I don't know where this rubbish about reliability came from.


From before your time basically. Pre 96/97 bikes were terrible for reliability not to mention variable build quality.

If you want a list of problems by model I can probably write something out for you?
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Stop reading.

Stop Writing.

Stop surfing.

Go out and do.

Irony... Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUG wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Stop reading.

Stop Writing.

Stop surfing.

Go out and do.

Irony... Laughing


Ok lets look at the difference between myself and the OP:

1.) I have ridden many many bikes, and can tell which bikes suit me and which bikes don't. The OP has not.

2.) I don't re-spout everything that I've read on the internet about bikes - The OP does.

3.)I don't live on jersey and think that 30mph is fast - The OP does.

Now lets look at the difference between myself and you: I am an adult, and you aren't.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont live in Jersey either, Dickwad. And I don't 'spout what I have heard', I ask questions about it, eg, why do people say Suzuki gear boxes are nice. Just because you are too retarded to actually answer these questions is not my fault.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I dont live in Jersey either, Dickwad. And I don't 'spout what I have heard', I ask questions about it, eg, why do people say Suzuki gear boxes are nice. Just because you are too retarded to actually answer these questions is not my fault.


Lol, its retarded to ask silly questions though.

I like my GSXR gearbox, its smooth and clunky in a good way.
I liked my Honda gearboxes, definitive shifting and noisy!
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I dont live in Jersey either, Dickwad. And I don't 'spout what I have heard', I ask questions about it, eg, why do people say Suzuki gear boxes are nice. Just because you are too retarded to actually answer these questions is not my fault.


Guernsey then. Move to the real world and you might find some of the answers yourself.

Seriously.
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