you are a miserable tight fisted lot!

[drew86]

this is kinda tongue in cheek, but my point still stands!
When a person displays a bike they're planning to buy, or indeed have bought... most often the first comment is 'that WAY overpriced'

now maybe as a new rider i'm totally thick to pricings etc, but it seems to me you lot think that almost all bikes are overpriced...

I've posted about two potential bikes and wanted peoples opinions on them recently, and rather than learning about the bike, I learned about the same bike for a couple of hundred quid cheaper... in the outer hebrides or somewhere equally as obscure...

I've decided after my handful of weeks belonging to this site, that if I want specific advice on a bike, i'm better off looking on youtube for reviews, but if I want to learn it's over priced... this is the place to be!
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[Pernig]

I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Surely being forewarned before parting with your cash is a good thing?
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[pepperami]

There is some validity in what you say, however there are also a huge amount of sharks out there.
They put their bikes up for sale at prices way above the norm/real value.
They are just waiting to fleece the unwary.
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[drew86]

I'm not complaining per se... but unless every dealer in the whole of South Wales totally racks up their prices, then the comments about bikes being over priced are not very accurate. maybe privately you may get one a bit cheaper, but I for one would rather pay slightly more and get some sort of warranty etc. I just think that how the bike rides, the reliability, any common faults to look out for are way more important.

Its on almost every 'what do you think of this...' thread... oooo way over priced...

just an observation more than anything.
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[Redoko]

People bump their prices in according to being expected to be knocked down. I put mine up a couple £100 because I know people want to haggle.

As to your points, I'd take an experienced member of this forum advice on a bike than some mug off YouTube.
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[hedgehugger]

Maybe it's because some of us remember, just a couple of years ago, that bikes were a damn site cheaper. In the last few years the price of bikes seems to have jumped a considerable amount.
What we could have bought for £1800 then, the dealers now want £3000+!!

[temeluchus]

[junglejim]

[drew86]

[drew86]

[Rogerborg]

The bikes you posted were both about £500 over-priced. National delivery is about £100. That's a lot of fun miles we were trying to buy you.

Personally I think that many of the entry level Big Boy Bikes are too expensive, although scoring an ER6f for £5K can't be bad.
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[the_quick]

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[junglejim]

[0l0dom0l0]

Haven't seen the bikes you've posted so can't comment there.

I've also noticed we get a lot of people who fail at using ebay, autotrader etc and come on here asking about bikes, which a 10 second search reveals that they are over priced, or there are better bikes out there.

I think you'll also find most people say things are overpriced because in their head they've bought a better bike for the same/ similar money.

Classic example was someone posted about a gixer 750 srad. was a 1998 bike from memory 20k miles with little history. Up for £2k.

Yes, in comparison with the prices of other 750's it wasn't a million miles out (although still high) but in comparison with the other bikes that are out there for that money it is a complete rip off.
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[sickpup]

Would you have preferred I let you get ripped off buying a 3 year old bike for £3800 when I bought the same bike new 3 years ago for £4k?

[MarJay]

If you don't like it, don't ask and get ripped off. Its really no skin off of our nose.

What do you expect us to say? Do you WANT us to lie? Do you want us to make you feel comfortable and happy with your purchase? Thats what salespeople do!

At the end of the day you're asking for advice because you aren't sure if the bike is worth the money. If you aren't sure, there is a reason for that, and it seems the reason is that the bikes you look at are overpriced.

Seriously, people on here tend to know their onions when it comes to bike prices.
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[craigs23]

I'm not sure whether BCF's bike valuations move with inflation, or from their previous buying experience, but from what I've seen of local dealers down here in the South, bike prices have stayed as they were from 3 or 4 years ago.

I keep seeing similarly reg'ed and conditioned bikes that I've previously had, with similar mileages, with the same asking prices from 2007 or so.

Example: In 2006, I bought a 3 year old Yamaha R6 with 5k on the clocks for a little over £3k. For the same model, similar mileage, I've seen a couple of examples recently where the asking price has been £3.5k. Sure, there's room for bartering on anything, but I reckon even with that, you'll be still looking at a similar price to when I bought mine.

Looks to me that the new bike price market has had an effect on the used bike price market - i.e., both have gone up. It might be the case, in some examples, that some BCF members haven't noticed this, and expect such examples to be valued less accordingly, for the amount of time that has past since a used bike's year of manufacture.

I remember purchasing my MT03 for £4.5k off the showroom floor a few years back, but now they are massively overpriced at over £7k RRP (which is ridiculous in my eyes). I wonder whether there are any low mileage used examples of bikes out there, with higher asking prices than they were new.

[Rogerborg]

I'm going purely by recent completed eBay sales on similar bikes.

[Pie-Roe]

I recall looking around when I first started looking at bikes in 2007, and the general consensus was that 1k would see you straight with a decent bandit/hornet up to 01. This no longer seems to be the case.

I think there are still bargains to be had, the Yamaha XJ6 for example seems an okay deal from a dealer. However it does seem a lot of things are overpriced.

In regards to the OP, it's fucking retarded asking for an opinion and then arguing over the price people say they bought one for.

I've had bikes and cars from miles away. I live near Dover, Kent. My last bike was from Derby (second one from there) and my last car was from Fife. They were both reasonably priced, and the £30 national express overnight to pretty much anywhere in the UK and the £50 petrol meant I spent £90 with some red bull and a sandwich to save £400+ on listing price.
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[the_quick]

But the OP did not asked for opinion on the price (in other topic he created before), he asked about the bikes, how they compare to others, what can go wrong etc.

But first few comments were "overpriced" or something in that line. That I think is most of argument in this discussion
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