Shed security idea's

[rhys1005]

Hi BCF.. I'm building a shed with my dad over the coming weeks for our motorcycles and I just need a few security idea's as our area is full of theiving scrotes and vandals.

The shed is going to have a concrete base and the shed's also going to have it's main structure (thick as fuck wood pillars) concreted into the ground, the rest of the shed touching the groung will also be bolted down.

Taking advantage of the concrete base my dads made up 3 stainless steel ground anchors about 1.5 foot long with the end being made out of a thick stainless steel 'O' ring for the chain to go through (two shit oxfords and an almax IV).

For locks weve went with a few cheap basic shed locks but plan to had double doors for the bike entrance and a side door for our access. The double doors are going have a barn door style bar & lock on the inside aswell as having two steel rods coming from the ground going up to knee height that also has a steel bar locked across to prevent the bikes leaving the shed.

We may go for a few extras such as reinforcing the inside with chicken wire and putting a plank of wood with a few cheeky nails sticking out behind each of the doors to give the theives a nice suprise.

Ok this might sound a bit OTT but my area is known for theives to the point where my neighbour has a huge £1k storage unit for his bike

Just want a few more ideas such as what hinges to use etc. this thing is going to be housing 3+ bikes for many years to come so want it as secure as possible for that peace of mind

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[bikertomm]

Sounds like you've got the jist of it buddy, all I'd say is get a ground anchor in there when you do the concrete, almax the bugger and get a decent lock on the shed, security light?

Then you've done your bit really!
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[SQL]

[G]

I'd consider going for the big overt security (like the metal bars) inside, so it doesn't look like there's owt worth nicking.

You can get fancy alarm systems fairly cheaply that will take a SIM card - not to deter thieves, but to notify you.

Ideally add to that a CCTV camera or two with remote viewing (can be done fairly cheaply) - that way if the Alarm goes while you're out, you can check up and call the police etc.

[-Matt-]

Sounds like you've got it covered to be honest

If you want cheaper/additional ground anchors some cheap plumbing piping like this will do the job normally https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SlGbfE2MaXw/TWFKAOfhNbI/AAAAAAAAADY/mbaB5U7Le7Q/s200/002.JPG

But 3 is probably plenty

Besides that i'd get some alarmed disc locks, one or two, cheap ones should be alright if its kept inside [they tend to go off in the wind and stuff if outside sometimes], just as an additional deterant.

[rhys1005]

Forgot to mention shed will be outside the front of house as we have no access to back garden. Dad is a welder.. can make pretty much anything is stainless steel if you have any good ideas. would put a dog in the shed but I like my dogs too much to put them at risk

Almax and anchor would deter most from theiving the bike but vandalism is another worry

Can't post pics atm but dad's going to make a 'Y' anchor tomorrow cost £70 odd to buy (search google images). It's concreted into the ground so only two holes are shown in the ground, no metal showing. Will post pics when it's made.

[-Matt-]

If the shed is purely for bike security and as hes a welder etc, have you considered a cage inside the shed, additional thing to chain the bike to and if you make a swing-door on it can put some hefty bolts etc to make a 'shed within a shed' essentially.

[G]

Consider sticking some rebar between the 'y' bit in the concrete and around the area; not likely it's going to be an issue, but can probably get some from scrap yard for not much and believe it should make it even harder.

[rhys1005]

Yeh we actually thought of having a cage and decided it was too risky as his boss doesn't mind him doing the odd anchor etc but not anything like that (too much material cost). Which is what gave us the chicken wire idea. Definatly something to consider in the future

Will text him about the rebar tomorrow as he works next to a scrap yard something i never thought about tbh, makes sense as the lock/chain will be £140 no point letting the anchor be the weak point!

[-Matt-]

Ah didn't realise he was using work materials [generous they're allowing the anchors ].

If a full blown cage isnt an option a hinged lock-bar might be doable as another additional thing to stop it being dragged out, can whack a chain/locks or whatever through the loop-point

Can't find an appropriate picture so excuse the horrendous drawing
https://i41.tinypic.com/2mgqrti.jpg

I would think you will need some pretty fucking determined thieves to nick it already though from what you've described unless the bikes in the 10k region

[fraser2312]

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious but when you fit the hinges use those bolts with the mushroom head, its really surprising the amount of hinges you see fitted with pozi screws .

[rhys1005]

[rhys1005]

[-Matt-]

I'd rather be OTT and fairly sure theyre safe personally also, luckily enough to have a garage in an alright area at the moment, so although mines not totally safe with the alarms/chain/anchor its pretty sturdy.

I'd definately do the same though, especially with that amount and value of bikes

[BTTD]

Security hinge.
https://www.locksonline.com/acatalog/stainless-steel-security-butt-hinge-102-x-76-mm-7289.html?gclid=CLrT2pjNlLkCFRMPtAodeQsAzA

Fitted something similar to my shed (cos I like my flymo nice and secure), but mine were from Screwfix.

[sabian92]

If Home Alone has taught me anything:

Use metal door handle

Attach live mains wire to handle
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[rhys1005]

Thanks for the reccomendations/idea's

Won a Abloy 362 padlock on ebay for £45 (£160 retail hope it isn't a fake?) and an Almax IV chain from their site. Also ordered one of those shot gun blank 'alarms' as i found one pretty cheap and going to look at those security hinges tonight as dad has a membership card to builders yard

Any idea why people use those long as fuck shed hinges appose to firedoor hinges?

[BTTD]

[Joncrete Cungle]

I have 4 Abloy 362 padlocks that all came from ebay, none are fake. We have a couple of £160 new ones on the gates at work that I compare my ebay jobbies to.

[Ribenapigeon]

I sandwiched my shed doors between half inch exterior plywood glued and bolted on as well as bolting on plywood surounding the doors over the top of the hinges as well as using steel strapping over the hinges. All lock hasp areas are surrounded by 2"x2" also bolted as well as screwed in so as to prevent a crowbar getting under the hasps or the three padlocks. The doors are akso chained to the door surounds on the inside. Bolt everything, screws are no good. Then add electrical alarms and other devices. Get a video survalence kit as well. my shed has survived five attempted break ins this way and the last one the coppers even got a conviction due to video evidence.

As for locks you can only go so far, but alongside my normal padlocks ive used a van door lock. Theyre an absolute bugger to get through apparently (according to my underworld sources).

An internal cage may be a bit over the top but if I could weld and had access to exuipment then I would have at least made a metal door frame and put a metal frame in the door.

[Walloper]

[i.p.phrealy]

re-enforce the frame and doors with angle iron if you can. makes them harder to crowbar open.
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