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newmannewy
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Pure Genius or Complete Idiot ?? Reply with quote

Ok so I need to adjust the valve clearances on my Triumph Daytona 955i ..

Now my daytona only has a side stand & I do not posess a centre stand. Now in order to avoid the cost of purchasing a paddock stand (£100+) in order to rotate the back wheel whilst I adjust and measure the valve clearances.. I was wondering could I keep the bike on the side stand and spin the wheel using a "laser wheel spinner"

as pictured here: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/laser-5320-motorcycle-wheel-spinner?da=1&TC=RV-050915320

What are you thoughts guys.. Completly dumb idea.. or might just work ? Mr. Green

Also does anybody know a cheap place to get shims from. As they seem rather expensive for just a small disc of metal.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy or borrow a paddock stand. If the bike falls over whilst doing the valves you'll be in a world of pain.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

paddock stands are under £50 for a pretty decent one mate.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

<£50 for front and rear:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BikeTek-Universal-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Front-Rear-Lift-Paddock-Stands-Pair-Set-/190652980789?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2c63cd9e35#ht_2710wt_1199
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick a milk crate.....
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can probably turn the engine over using the nut that holds the flywheel on. I've done valves with a bike on a side stand, but then i've never owned anything too expensive to worry about wrecking Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frost wrote:
You can probably turn the engine over using the nut that holds the flywheel on. I've done valves with a bike on a side stand, but then i've never owned anything too expensive to worry about wrecking Laughing


Do it this way, works on every other bike I've owned
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 30 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Buy or borrow a paddock stand. If the bike falls over whilst doing the valves you'll be in a world of pain.


too fucking right. I bought a paddock stand for under £30 on ebay. Don't take shortcuts, it can become very expensive.
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can turn the engine over using a socket as above.
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am near Oxford, as long as I got it back, I would happily lend you my rear stand.
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £22 for my rear stand, and then someone posted after me to say the same model was available for £15. It holds my thundercat up nicely, plenty strong and stable enough.

One of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIKETEK-HEAVY-DUTY-REAR-MOTORBIKE-PADDOCK-STAND-LIFT-/260785231407?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3cb802d62f

Can be had cheaper than that though.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: single swingarm Reply with quote

Its a single sided swing arm - the stands are more expensive.

I also need to buy a :
Torque wrench £25 - 35
Micrometer £11
Valve Compresion Set ? To Lift Valves out - £55

If anyone near Wolverhampton has a padock stand for single sided swing arm daytona 955i & a valve lifting kit.. Id be more than happy to pay a rental fee Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: single swingarm Reply with quote

newmannewy wrote:

Valve Compresion Set ? To Lift Valves out - £55



Please tell me you actually know what you are doing?

You do not need to remove the valves to do the clearances.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: single swingarm Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
newmannewy wrote:

Valve Compresion Set ? To Lift Valves out - £55



Please tell me you actually know what you are doing?

You do not need to remove the valves to do the clearances.


was thinking this myself
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He means the shim tool. YOu can do the shims without pulling the cams, but the tool is £55. I could make on in an hour given the dimensions, it's a very simple device.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: shim tool Reply with quote

Thats right a shim tool, and no I aint got the foggiest about what im doing Razz

Although I do have a haynes manual and have read a few tutorials online. As with anything you want to learn in life - you have a go.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck then!
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: single swingarm Reply with quote

newmannewy wrote:
Its a single sided swing arm


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PostPosted: 17:46 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ricambiweiss.de/index.php/cat/c190_PADDOCK-STAND.html/XTCsid/mj6siah3p1p9p73fogjeifh3p4


Good quality TUV approved stuff for not much cash, just takes a few days to get in from germany Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 31 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the link stonsie, but that still puts it over £60 with delivery. Im trying to avoid that cost. Probably wont be able to but im tryin.

Im gathering all parts & tools together before I attempt the job. Im wondering where is the best place to buy shims once I work out which sizes I need ?

Also does anybody have any recomendations for a good torque wrench. It seems the nm sizes are totally random.. From 3nm - 28nm or 40nm - 220nm or 5nm - 25 nm..

its like which wrench do you go for ? Why does it seem nobody makes sets like 0nm-25nm then 25nm - 80nm and 80nm-220nm or whatever.. why are they all random.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 01 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy one that covers th range you need.

This one covers a good range;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-34570-88-5-708-Inch-Pounds-Ratchet/dp/B0001K9T2O

If you need a bigger one for stuff like clutch centre nut or axle nut, get a big feck off one that does a higher range like this one;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-30357-Micrometer-Adjustment-Torque/dp/B0001K9S52/ref=pd_sim_diy_1
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 01 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

just pull the bike over onto its sidestand until the rear wheel lifts and turn the wheel by hand that way, aslong as your stood on the same side as the stand it shouldnt go anywhere
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