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| Tomzo47 |
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 Tomzo47 Brolly Dolly

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 Posted: 18:33 - 20 Mar 2012 Post subject: Don't you just hate insurance companies |
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Rang up today to see how much it would cost to change my policy to a bandit, they can't because the largest bike I can have on my policy is a 125 (which they failed to mention when I took out the policy) . This means if i want to insure a bigger bike, I lose 7 months no claims. Surely this is just a scam meaning that when somebody buys a 125 and passes their tests, to have a bigger bike they have to cancel their insurance (pay for that) then take out a new policy for - wait for it - £2000 TPO. So Lexham to you. Plus they tried to charge me £30 for pillion cover when my YBR is barely big enough for me. Rant over. ____________________ Ybr 125 > Bandit 650SA > GSXR 600 > Triumph Sprint St1050 > CB1300 > Z1000SX + FJ1200 (written off) > VFR750 >FJ1200 |
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Lexham only insure 50>125. You bought the cheapest 125 insurer so... yea.
Its the underwriters usually..not the actual insurer. Needless to say my experience with Lexham was fantastic. 125 insurance is very cheap even with multiple riders, claims and lack of security devices
Keep 125 for a while, get your full year then upgrade  |
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This happened to me when I passed my test. It seems that a lot of insurance companies are doing what they call "Scooter policies" now which are basically any bikes <=125cc. This means, as you said, anyone who passes their test with their 125cc can't change to a bike above 125cc without buying a whole new policy.
Maybe it's a tactic to delay them from getting their first year of no claims bonus and implicitly delaying their first major insurance discount? Anything to make some more money I guess.
Do what I did, just let your policy run out. I sold my 125cc and got a Thundercat but never informed my insurance company, so a few months later I got a letter with my first year of no claims bonus. . It is crafty, I do agree with you there.
Cheers! ! ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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It's not a problem isolated to smaller capacity bikes. I rang up my insurers to switch the policy from the 750cc triumph to the 900cc ZX9r. They said my current underwriters (equity redstar through bikesure) wouldn't insure the new bike as the insurance group is too high. I said if they wont change it I'll cancel the old policy and take a new a new policy elsewhere, they (bikesure) said there was nothing they could do. I did a comparison check and bikesure came up as the cheapest again, so I rang them back and asked them about the new policy, everything seemed okay until the call centre dude told me who the underwriters are... yup, you guessed it... equity redstar! I immediately enquired how this could be, as I'd already been told I couldn't insure the kwak with them on my old policy. He went off, spoke to his manager and came back to inform me that the policy scheme (scam? ) on this policy and my old one is different, so whilst I could not do a straight swap from one bike to the next, I could still take out the new policy with the old underwriters. They did knock 10% off the policy for me and waive all the admin fees, which was nice of them .
I hate insurance. It's an annual bum raping. ____________________ 1977 Honda CG125
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Have any of you considered cutting out the broker and their usurious admin fees and instructing the underwriter directly? They're the one providing the cover to you.
arry, any thoughts on that? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 Posted: 09:13 - 21 Mar 2012 Post subject: Re: Don't you just hate insurance companies |
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| arry wrote: | | mikeyg143 wrote: |
Yes, it is in the contract blah blah, but we can all agree here that insurance is a fucking scam. Regulation is awful, the quotes they come up with seem to be based on black magic, and they try to weasel out of any claim they can. |
I can agree here I'm tired of hearing the same old broken record. |
To be fair in this case, changing up from a 125 is hardly an unusual situation for a bike rider.
But caveat emptor and all that. If you don't ask (or sometimes even if you do, and get lied to), you can't be sure. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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No help to you at all but I just insured my 636 fully comp as a 20 year old for £300  ____________________ EMRA Roadstock #92 - Paperwork Permitted.
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| Poseidon wrote: | It's not a problem isolated to smaller capacity bikes. I rang up my insurers to switch the policy from the 750cc triumph to the 900cc ZX9r. They said my current underwriters (equity redstar through bikesure) wouldn't insure the new bike as the insurance group is too high. I said if they wont change it I'll cancel the old policy and take a new a new policy elsewhere, they (bikesure) said there was nothing they could do. I did a comparison check and bikesure came up as the cheapest again, so I rang them back and asked them about the new policy, everything seemed okay until the call centre dude told me who the underwriters are... yup, you guessed it... equity redstar! I immediately enquired how this could be, as I'd already been told I couldn't insure the kwak with them on my old policy. He went off, spoke to his manager and came back to inform me that the policy scheme (scam?  ) on this policy and my old one is different, so whilst I could not do a straight swap from one bike to the next, I could still take out the new policy with the old underwriters. They did knock 10% off the policy for me and waive all the admin fees, which was nice of them  .
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Interesting point that fella because Bikesure with underwriters as Equity red are by far the best quote I keep finding on any site by a few hundred quid, im gonna ask the question that uve mentioned when I insure my bike on friday (fingers crossed)
Can u contact Equity Red Star directly? anyone done this?
EDIT: https://www.equityredstar.co.uk/equityredstar/products/motorcycle.jsp
Doesnt look like u can, what a scam lol |
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Why's it a scam? They're just a broker only insurer, ie they only trade through a broker, not direct to customer.
Redoko - Lexham are a broker, you're correct. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 350 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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