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sheriffjonny
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: temporary traffic lights for roadworks Reply with quote

At the moment round my end they are replacing all of the water mains. This means there are loads of temporary traffic lights set up on my way to the station in the morning. I'm on the road at about 5:15am. Today I got stuck at 3 sets of these and missed my train by 2 minutes. Gutted!!!

Anyway, I'm sure that I read or heard somewhere that I can go through these lights even if they are red.

Is this true, if so what are the ins and outs of it, or is it an urban myth?
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urban Bollocks Smile

Red Light means STOP end of.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go through them. If you hit the oncoming articulated Lorry, It's f*ck all to do with us. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the day before because there were no cars behind, either behind or in front, but today there were cars already queing at them that i filtered past, so thought better of it. TBH I can see clearly past to the other end of these lights aswell
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course you can go through them, much like you can chop the balls off of a bike thief and feed them to him. Each one has implications though.

If you're going to run a red-light, just go for it. Sometimes I find road-works temporary traffic lights a complete piss take; when there is a good view up the entire road, the road is completely clear, the road works are a few meters long and it's 11pm at night... and the lights are on red. I'm sorry, I'm just going to go through them.

Just don't get caught or crash.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be a Traffic Order in place. If not, then they're just pretty coloured lights with no particular road traffic meaning other than that you're slightly more likely than usual to get smashed into if you ride past the red light.

Even if they're validated by a TO, then ignoring them has exactly the same legal penalty as being caught exceeding the posted speed limit. I bet that doesn't keep you awake at nights.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic but theres a roundabout near me with lights at every entrance that seems to work on some kind of sensor. The problem is that bikes dont set it off so if its late at night you either have to just go through red or wait till a car comes to set you free

pretty annoying really
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 04 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

little tip, most of these lights work on light sensing, if you flash your lights a few times on the run up to them and its clear the other side then they change quicker.
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

flumpy7 wrote:
Slightly off topic but theres a roundabout near me with lights at every entrance that seems to work on some kind of sensor. The problem is that bikes dont set it off so if its late at night you either have to just go through red or wait till a car comes to set you free

pretty annoying really


There's usually an induction coil buried in the road in front of the lights - look for an area of tarmac that's diamond-shaped with a thin line of tar around it, ride over the corner of that. If it's a regular problem even then, ring up highways and tell them it's not picking you up.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
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little tip, most of these lights work on light sensing, if you flash your lights a few times on the run up to them and its clear the other side then they change quicker.


no they don't.

they use short range radar.

the temporary ones near me do....
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones up here don't have any of those fancy gizmos and are just on a timer.
But I think we get electricity shipped up from the south still, so no surprise.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
The ones up here don't have any of those fancy gizmos and are just on a timer.
But I think we get electricity shipped up from the south still, so no surprise.
Surely you still have 'stop/go' boards manned by chaps wearing cloth caps.

This is still the best system for temporary traffic control, reacts to traffic flow more efficiciently and they let their mates through if they see them.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing, we do have those too, actually!

But presume there's not enough money around to keep them going through the night Sad.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for a traffic management company and there isnt a traffic light in the world that changes when you flash your lights, all portable lights use a short distance radar which sends out a beam, when the beam hits your vehicle it bounces back letting the TL know something is there. If neither light detects a vehicle they will sit on all red until somebody turns up, which is usally somebody flashing their lights, the traffic light detects their presence and changes to green, they believe it was due to them flashing, it wasn't.
Oh and a red light is red light no matter how long the works area or if you can see the other side. we've had people jumping lights cause they can see nothing approaching at the other side and been hit by a vehicle coming from a third or fourth phase.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheriffjonny wrote:
TBH I can see clearly past to the other end of these lights aswell


Go through then, if you can see its safe to go through and theres no mr plod behind you, go through. Well i do most of the time anyway.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

soforene wrote:
Tom85 wrote:
I work for a traffic management company and there isnt a traffic light in the world that changes when you flash your lights....
Does infrared count as a light source?

https://www.themirt.com/how-it-works.php

Wink


But do you think a 55W headlight will show up in the IR when it's mounted to the front of several kilowatts of IR-emitting engine?!
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