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You don't turbo and worry about MPG  |
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| Posted: 18:30 - 06 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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Can't believe I missed this thread  Very cool stuff  210bhp
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So what kind of MPG would you get out that badboy? Like 5? |
Um, from my rough calculations it'll chump a gallon of 99 octane in about 16 miles, mixed riding with a few pulls. On boost it's pushing 40 psi of fuel into dumb carbs that'll swallow anything they can steal from the regulator.
| Quote: | I'm jizzing over this bike. You did a cracking job on it man |
Thank you, but it's nowhere near finished yet. I mean it probably won't ever be 'finished' as such, but i've got bodywork, swingarm extension, clutch work and other little bits and pieces to do yet. I'm happy with the running of it now though, and it seems (touch wood) to be reliable.
| Quote: | I was on the IOW yesterday and I have no idea where you can open up that bike anywhere. The place is the size of a shoe and 30/40 limits and speed cameras |
To be frank, a 600 is wasted on the Island. As Paddy said the Mili is a good road to hit, you can sit up the black gang (not a racial slur, it's called that lol) viewpoint and wait for the cop car to go past on a sunday, give it ten minutes and you can hit it at a decent speed. I'm building this as a hobby and something I enjoy, with an eye to doing RWYB events and hitting Elvington next year when it's a bit more sorted. It will see very limited road use.
| Quote: | How much did the turbo set you back if you don’t mind me asking? |
3600 covered the labour, fabwork, fitment, tuning and dyno time. It also included shipping the bike back and forth between the ferry terminal in Portsmouth and Sussex twice, a 140 mile round trip for Malcolm. It's a high price to pay, but you would have to spend far more to get 210hp (or the capacity to produce 210hp) out of a naturally aspirated motor, and it wouldn't be anywhere near as useable. I have a friend on the Island with a Bandit 1200 motor bored to 1280cc (1156cc stock) with Viper cams, forged rods and pistons in a Gix 750 frame that lays down 167hp at the rear wheel. It is tuned for top end and has very little down low, big flatspot at 2k rpm then a huge hit about 7k at which point the bike takes off and tries to spit you. It is far more scary than the turbo.
Other thing is, if this motor blows, it's a standard motor. I can just get another one off E-bay or from a breakers for cheap, install a second base gasket and transfer the turbo gear over. A built N/A motor is going to be a hellaload more expensive than that to replace.
Limit for this particular turbo is 300hp on race fuel. Chances are the pistons would all get together and have a party in the middle of the motor before it got very far though.
| Quote: | I think that would be unrideable in the wet |
Ride sensibly and it's not bad. It's 8.5-1 compression ratio so off boost it's more mellow than a normal bandit. I've been riding for 8 years now, and I don't feel outside my comfort zone at all. Well, maybe once or twice. It can surprise you
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| Posted: 21:58 - 06 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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I love this bike 
Excluding the purchase cost of the bike... how much has it all cost you if you don't mind me asking?
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| Posted: 22:39 - 06 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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think so.
mine (for the 1052 coil spring) was like £125
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| Posted: 22:44 - 06 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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lol, could have a bought a coilspring conversion and a lockup for the price of that one 
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I always reckon, if you're building a turbo system on the 'cheap' take your original estimation and multiply the cost by four and the time by ten 
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You need a gopro attached to your helmet to show us how it pulls!
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Well, it's been 7 months so far I didn't have an estimation so 10X infinity it is!
I'm kind of coming round to the thinking that I'd like to have a pop at doing it myself on another bike. I've built up a decent list of contacts and found some places on the Island that I didn't know were there before, it would be possible to get stuff made and I could source stuff cheaper.
I should probably finish this one first though.
I need a gopro, this is true.
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How was it getting the gix rear in your bandit? Research would suggest the bearing swap and some custom spacers, that accurate? The gix 1000 forks in yours handle the weight of the bandit any better? It was a nice bike man!
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Rear shock, was a bit of a mess around getting it in, but it went in pretty easily.
I kept the Bandit linkage.
I had to remove the centre stand. Then use lower hole in the flange on the bike.
So where the centre stand bolts on, it looks like a couple of "B" Shaped brackets.
The linkage is usually in the top holes.
So remove the captive nuts from the lower holes, then use that to mount the linkage lower in the frame, giving room for the longer GIX 1000 shock.
I cant remember, but I think I may have flipped the linkage upside down too.
And then of course, made some longer (I think) dog bones out of some flat bar.
The forks were massively better than the stock items. For a start, the bars weren't fucking rubber mounted!
Being shorter, it did make turn-in a little interesting, And yeah, they could of done with being a bit stiffer too, as it felt like the tyre was going to hit the oil cooler on full brake.
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| Posted: 19:49 - 07 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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Bit of a job then! I was actually referring to the rear rim you had fitted to yours. I'm quite happy with the WP I got in mine
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| Posted: 21:02 - 07 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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Did you ask him to do your pressure-plate buttons? He does it as a free service for people who buy a lockup off him.
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| Posted: 21:20 - 07 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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I didn't know when I bought mine either, he told me afterwards when I was talking about it.
The arms press on the face of the pressure plate, and gouge the ally over time. He sets thin steel buttons in the face of the plate for the arms to press against. Never seen a diaphragm one but I guess they should be the same.
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