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BusySam
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Come to my senses.. Reply with quote

Hello.

Had a post a while back about a few 125s but after looking into it I have come to my senses and realised I don't need to go buying a plastic fantastic, I'm gonna go for a cheap and cheerful bike and get them L plates off soon as possible.

So, YBR, CBF, CG or a Varadero? Now I love the Varadero. Looks lovely. What I wanted to know is what do you think is best for me to grab hold of? From what I've seen they're all cheap and can be got under a grand which is my budget. Can't really go more at all. The Varadero pulls me towards it because of the looks but it's not about looks at this point really. So what do you guys think will be the best? Price wise/maintenance/reliability etc.. These are the only 125s I've found that cheap, feel free to suggest other bikes! Need to pass my test on it, gotta take that into mind!

Cheers for the help lads n lasses!
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Richtea
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find a decent Varadero for under a grand, snap it, up because theres not many for that price. Having said that they are expensive for a reason, they look good, go well and are pretty bombproof.
The other models you listed will be much cheaper.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a 1998 CG125 for £470. Put about 2k miles on it, sold for £525
In my ownership it required the total sum of: £0 in repairs. Thumbs Up
I treated it to an oil change... that cost about £8 Laughing

Love those Honda's.
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BusySam
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will keep an eye for the varadero, I actually prefer the look of it to a little plastic fantastic to tell the truth! Razz

Really? I haven't seen any that cheap! Will keep looking though! They sound cheap as, can always rely on a Honda Laughing

Not being lazy or nothing but If anyone knows any for sale in Essex let me know!
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't wait too long. The prices for 125s seem to be rising every day, as I presume loads of people are trying to get their tests in before January. I'm not saying you won't, but you'll be lucky to get anything for less than 600 to 700. Don't leave it too long if you're intending doing your tests on it this year.
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Efes123 wrote:
I wouldn't wait too long. The prices for 125s seem to be rising every day, as I presume loads of people are trying to get their tests in before January. I'm not saying you won't, but you'll be lucky to get anything for less than 600 to 700. Don't leave it too long if you're intending doing your tests on it this year.


agree, seems the new change in January is pushing a few people to sit their test
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Efes123 wrote:
I wouldn't wait too long. The prices for 125s seem to be rising every day, as I presume loads of people are trying to get their tests in before January. I'm not saying you won't, but you'll be lucky to get anything for less than 600 to 700.


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This is the reason I'm doing my test this year rather than replacing my failing GN, 125 prices are silly now.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can afford the initial outlay, go for the Varadero. They are very reliable, and cheap to run.

They look and feel like a much bigger bike, and make the transition from 'Learner Legal' to 'Full Power' a lot easier.

If you plan on selling it after January, you will at least get your money back, maybe a bit more.

Don't be put off by a 10 year-old one either - they don't tend to appeal to the thrash-and-bash sort of rider, so as long as it has been looked after, it will last for ages!
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BusySam
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cthanks for the replies Smile

Im just gonna grab the first cheap 125 I can which works and ride for a bit and then get my test done ASAP!

This problem solved, next problem finding one!
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BusySam
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen a Yamaha tw125, what do you guys think of them and can j do my test on one?
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Sako
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

BusySam wrote:
Seen a Yamaha tw125, what do you guys think of them and can j do my test on one?


here's an MCN review

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Yamaha/Yamaha-TW125-1999-2004-/
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Efes123
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
BusySam wrote:
Seen a Yamaha tw125, what do you guys think of them and can j do my test on one?


here's an MCN review

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Yamaha/Yamaha-TW125-1999-2004-/


First paragraph;
If you have a large camper van and need a bike to ride across beaches then the Yamaha TW125 is perfect, but in every way it is entirely impractical transport. A sluggish SR125 motor, circus clown riding position and questionable build quality make the Yamaha TW125 a bit too quirky for most people.

Suggest you keep looking Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yerrrrs... MCN though. At the moment, beggars can't be choosers when it comes to 125s. If it gets you through your tests and doesn't lose much value, it'll have done its job.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm done with the two wheelers stuff, but I suggest not to try Huoniao HN125-8 125...

Anyone who states these bikes are robust and reliable, is speaking rubbish. The metal is soft, its develop badly, and doesn't last extended whatsoever. People who praise it only achieve this because they are jealous inside the better producers like Japanese bikes. This bike affected me for pretty much any whole year of setting up it, failing together with the substitutes prices is 20 occasions overpriced! It's mentioned its reliable, the first factor thats reccomended ought to be to get rid of the sidestand switch, because it fails... My exhausts keep falling, and essentially method to ensure that they are on ought to be to over tighten, but leading to flange bending and engine material bending. Threads get removed constantly, and sections snap and discontinue. I bought new sections undertaking an initial ones not efficient soon after buying the bike from new, only to loose them exactly the same day!



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PostPosted: 19:45 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a YBR for about a year, lost a fair bit of value, partly because I part exchanged it as well, couldn't fault it for a cheap runaround though, easily hit 90mpg, nice and nippy in town and up to about 50..
Same can be said for the CG although I imagine it will hold its value better.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ambit_Energy wrote:
It's mentioned its reliable, the first factor thats reccomended ought to be to get rid of the sidestand switch, because it fails

What fails is the connector block for the switch wiring, which is placed right underneath the bike. Any trip to the Huoniao owners club will tell you this, and suggest 3 or more solutions.

Ambit_Energy wrote:
My exhausts keep falling, and essentially method to ensure that they are on ought to be to over tighten

Have you never heard of spring washers? Confused

Ambit_Energy wrote:
I bought new sections undertaking an initial ones not efficient soon after buying the bike from new, only to loose them exactly the same day!

I want you the formula to London bring.
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BusySam
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 05 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet again cheers for all the replies! I'm gonna hopefully just grab a cheap YBR/CG maybe a Vara just to get me through my tests! Been stalking eBay and gumtree, couldn't find much on there yet. Gonna check bike trader.
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PostPosted: 05:36 - 06 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ambit_Energy wrote:
I'm done with the two wheelers stuff, but I suggest not to try Huoniao HN125-8 125...

Anyone who states these bikes are robust and reliable, is speaking rubbish. The metal is soft, its develop badly, and doesn't last extended whatsoever. People who praise it only achieve this because they are jealous inside the better producers like Japanese bikes. This bike affected me for pretty much any whole year of setting up it, failing together with the substitutes prices is 20 occasions overpriced! It's mentioned its reliable, the first factor thats reccomended ought to be to get rid of the sidestand switch, because it fails... My exhausts keep falling, and essentially method to ensure that they are on ought to be to over tighten, but leading to flange bending and engine material bending. Threads get removed constantly, and sections snap and discontinue. I bought new sections undertaking an initial ones not efficient soon after buying the bike from new, only to loose them exactly the same day!



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chat shit much?

honestly if you took 5 mintes on the owners club solutions to the few problems these bikes have are soon dealt with.

then again if you gave up biking based on the experience of one bike then yu probably dont care much about seeing anything through.

got a car liscence? is it insured taxed and mot'd? if yes then bloody hell! you saw something through!

hope you dont crash or you might "give up with the 4 wheels stuff" too
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PostPosted: 05:40 - 06 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care what anyone says, I'm glad I went for my NSR125 when I started riding. Great bike. Get what you want, as long as you can afford it comfortably.
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BusySam
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 06 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did have a look at an NSR but was 1500, I'm looking to spend under a grand,600-800 pref. just gonna hint eBay for something cheap who he'll get me through my test. Found a cg for 650. Need to o see it though.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 06 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post a link, nobody is going to nab it out from under you, but we might be able to spot the inevitable twisted subframe or slack chain.
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