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parv1
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Lifting bike on to side stand put my back out!!! Reply with quote

Today was my first day of training for my Mod 1.

Morning was ok, then we started practicing the first part where you wheel the bike backwards in to a parking space.

When I tried putting the bike on the centre stand, I felt a big twinge in my back (muscular) but was still able to move about.

The instructor had to put the bike on and off the stand from there on in.

I'm so worried that it may affect my test on Friday.

Have just spoken to my instructor and he said he's got a bike with a side stand which i can use and can be used for the test too.

Fingers crossed i'll be ok.

Has anyone else had injuries that weren't caused by an accident on their training?
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the centre stand apart of the test now again?
I remember it was ruled out just before I did my DAS - which is a good thing because even to this day I cant put a scooter/Bike on its centre stand what so ever 7 years on Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, it's either stand. Some bikes don't have centre stands, it can't be a requirement.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the sidestand on my test last week, it's definitely OK. Never use a centrestand for a MOD1 test if the bike has a sidestand!
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Nope, it's either stand. Some bikes don't have centre stands, it can't be a requirement.


some bikes dont have a side stand (but do have the center stand)

the yamaha YBR 125 i've been learning on doesnt have a side stand.

but my huoniao has both lol
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

my Yamaha 2009 Ybr has both!!
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

so for starters, putting a bike on a centre stand should not be a difficult thing to do.

push it down with your foot, get the stand planted ready and hold both the handlebar and the grab handle. the idea is you basically stand/push down with your right foot using your hands to steady the bike.. it should go on without you 'busting a gut'. you use your weight to do it, not pull up on it

e.g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnhhOjtOlhA&feature=related
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this problem for a while.
You need to get the 'knack'.

90% of the effort involved should be your foot pushing the stand down/forward.
Your arm on the rear grab rail (or similar) only serves to ease it along and stabilise.

It is something you will get the hang of later. I would just use the side stand, just make sure you kick it and 'test' by trying to pull the bike down to make sure the stand stops it.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to do the centre stand on my test, bare in mind this was before the part 1&2 bollocks, you shouldn't need to use your back as such to put a bike on the centre stand, hold the bike upright, left hand on left bar, right hand on seat/grab rail, one foot on the stand so it's on the floor then stand on the stand as it were, the bike will come up, you just need to balance it... Thumbs Up

Do some mild twists and stretches to ease the knot/pull in your back between now and then, MILD being the key word...
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it much easier once I was standing further towards the front of the bike! Before I was standing in line with the stand and just standing on it, and for some reason it was loads of effort, but stand with left foot around front of tank sort of location, then right knee against the bike and right foot on stand, and just press down!
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 05 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had bikes before with centre stands and putting them on and taking them off wasn't an issue.

This CG just feels so heavy. But they have arranged a bike with just a side stand now to help save my back.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 05 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Nope, it's either stand. Some bikes don't have centre stands, it can't be a requirement.

When I did my test, putting the bike on the centrestand was a requirement. If your bike didn't have one, it was unsuitable for using on the test.

You had to pull in at the side of the road, get off the bike, put it on the stand, take it off the stand and push it through a turn in the road. Then you'd have to get back on and do a U-turn, the pushing having shown it was possible to turn that bike in the width available.

EDIT: CG125 centrestands are not at all well designed. The mounts start to wear with use and the wheels get closer and closer to the ground. You eventually have to start looking for slight humps to park them on.
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