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skylineonfire
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Leaving bike outside overnight, how? Reply with quote

So after my last bike got stolen, from Northampton on a residential street, I've got a new one and its time I went back there, as my girlfriend lives there and I obviously want to go stay over there.

Last time my bike was unsecured, with nothing but the steering lock, and it was stolen from a residential street.

Where shall I leave it? I'm just so paranoid now. I've got myself a Oxford screamer disc lock (given to me, reviews arent too good so I wouldn't of purchased) and I'm going to get a chain today. I figure if I leave it on the same street again, but this time chained to a lamp post, with an alarmed disc lock? I just don't know.

Anyone else have any suggestions as to where to leave it, in Northampton if that helps. This is such a pain now.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain it to a lamp post with an Almax or suchlike.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are worried about your bike getting stolen then I would suggest taking the bus or some other form of public transport. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Chain it to a lamp post with an Almax or suchlike.


That's my intention, coupled with an alarmed disc lock, and perhaps a cover too?
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you be able to hear the alarm from your house?
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't have nice stuff in this country without some total cnut thinking they deserve it. I'd take the bus/train if I were you, or yeah try the Almax and some screamer disc locks but if somebody really wants it they'll get it.

If I ever stay at my girlfriend's house I ride the thing up the steps and park it round the back of the house, both my bikes have been enduro/supermoto types, but I know it's not an option for most bikes.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF did I get a redundant for?

You asked for a suggestion as to where you should leave your bike. I gave you one which involves bike saftey first and foremost. Imagine the thrill of being able to shag mrs skyline safe in the knowledge that your precious motorcycle is locked away safe and sound and not have to get up during foreplay because you heard a gnats fart outside the window and you want to check your bike.

Personally I think my suggestion is better than Andys as chaining it to a lamp post will undoubtedly involve parking it on the pavement and obstructing a pavement is a ticketable offence.

Fair enough though, your bike, your problem. Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
WTF did I get a redundant for?

You asked for a suggestion as to where you should leave your bike. I gave you one which involves bike saftey first and foremost. Imagine the thrill of being able to shag mrs skyline safe in the knowledge that your precious motorcycle is locked away safe and sound and not have to get up during foreplay because you heard a gnats fart outside the window and you want to check your bike.

Personally I think my suggestion is better than Andys as chaining it to a lamp post will undoubtedly involve parking it on the pavement and obstructing a pavement is a ticketable offence.

Fair enough though, your bike, your problem. Middle Finger


Because we all worry about our bikes getting nicked, I'm assuming you do too. Not using our bikes isn't really a solution, and my apologies I just read your post in a condescending way. I can't just ditch my primary mode of transport because some filthy individuals think it's their right to steal motorbikes. I'm just looking for solutions, rather than being recommended towards public transport.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Will you be able to hear the alarm from your house?


Not sure she lives in a student house, there's four of them, and she has the bedroom furthest at the back of the house.

What irritates me the most is there are bikes far more valuable than mine just up the street, with a chain on but not chained to anything, a lovely new triumph, and further up a big Honda, again, unchained to anything, just a chain on the rear wheel.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they cant nick it, they'll trash it......
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Leaving bike outside overnight, how? Reply with quote

Is there really nowhere off of the road you can put it?

Garden, behind a bin, in a hedge, a doorway, a private alley, tucked behind a car on a driveway etc etc anything is better than plain sight on the road.

Also, chain it to something and get a cover on it.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a multi story car, with gates that lock at night, cctv, manned in the daytime etc
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were given a solution. Very possible the only way to be sure solution. My bikes have all parked in the street and its been vandalized 5 times in the last 3 years. 3 different bikes. Truth is unless you keep your bike in the garage at home your going to have to invest in some decent security. Which is probably why my bike gets pushed over or smashed mirrors rather than stolen.

As the bendy one said, Can you hear the alarm from your GF/s house? Because if not then you might as well not bother with the noisy thing. Its been proven that a car alarm/bike alarm holds no interest to the general public and everyone seems to ignore them.

While it may not be practical to take public transport to the other halfs place it would work out cheaper than having your precious bike stolen again. Since the area has been targeted before. Its what I would do. I'd rather spend the £10 on a train or bus than pay for yet another stolen bike claim on my insurance in as many months.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered investing in an alarm as well? There are those from MotorBikeAlarm. Get quite good reviews.

There was available a motorcycle alarm that paged you if it went off. IIRC two types. One using an actual phone SIM to call you. So quite expensive. The other cheaper one just used a radio (like a baby alarm works) to tell you. The second type was useful if you parked the bike outside and were in a bedroom. Try google or eBay.

Mind you as said if staying the night with girlfriend would you hear the alarm or be able to get out to the bike Wink

I'd go for a good chain (can leave at girlfriend's yes?) with a good lock. Have a look at the alternative to Almax thread for ideas. A cover is sometimes a good move. Can use tarpaulin rather than bike cover. Tattier the better is sometimes good as tend to think tatty cover = tatty bike.

If use a chain as suggested chain to street furniture. Do not leave lock and chain attached. Common trick is to bugger the lock with superglue while it's there and then come for the bike you can't lock up.

If there is any off street with soil there is the type of temporary ground anchor you screw into the ground (bit like those used for dogs). Like these. Put chain through that and can't unscrew and should not be able to get leverage to pull out.

Always try and put a chain over the seat. Certainly do not let it trail, or be able to be put, on the ground. That makes it easier to take a smash at breaking. Goes for the lock too.

As said there is public transport or if you want a bit of exercise there's always a pushbike (although that might get nicked/vandalised as well Rolling Eyes ).

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PostPosted: 15:50 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
If you are worried about your bike getting stolen then I would suggest taking the bus or some other form of public transport. Thumbs Up


I agree with this. If there's a reasonable public transport service in the area and the area is THAT bad that you're not convinced someone else will have a go at pinching it, then it's not worth the risk imo.

But then again, you were foolish leaving it with no real security on it in the first place.

If you DO use the bike, see about chaining it to a lamp-post/tree with a good heavy chain. I'd be less inclined to use an alarm if you're not sure, as people have said, you're going to actually hear it. However, an alarm can also be a deterrant in itself.

But I still hold to siding with Pinky. If the area's THAT bad, I wouldn't use the bike.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I do when I have to leave a bike outside my girlfrends, having had one bike stolen from there in the past.

19mm Pragmasis chain & Abloy 362 padlock through back wheel and frame. Locked off the ground to lamp post.

Smaller 13mm Pragmasis chain through front wheel, yokes and bike cover. Locked off the ground with a Squire SS65CS to lamp post.

Motrax Vishas disc lock and bike cover over bike. Cover is occasionally lifted off by passing scrotes who leave bike alone. Thinking of adding discreet motion sensor camera and recording device in window of room overlooking bike.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am gonna assume this is a 125, seeing as two bigger bikes are left alone, they may be too intimidating for the class of bike theif in that area.

If so, its a four in the block, probably with a secure rear area, out of sight of the street and within earshot of gf room.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has she got a kind neighbor who might let you use their garage or there yard for the night.Offer a couple quid for there trouble might work Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditch the bitch, save the bike Laughing Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:49 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Will you be able to hear the alarm from your house?

Depends if the girlfriend is a screamer, surely?

Is this another spanking new CBF125? And you're planning to park it in the exact same spot that the hyenas dragged your old one away from? Thinking

OK, it took them two bites to dispatch the old one, but that means they came back for it, and they'll have a taste for it now. It's not really a question of if they have a go at it, it's when, and how tooled up they'll be.

Honestly? I wouldn't, not with any bike that I couldn't afford to lose. If you're going to do it anyway, then I'd say bite the bullet and buy an Almax chain, and secure it to solid street furniture.

If you can't afford Almax, well... can you afford to lose another bike? You'll already dealing with one insurance claim, can you imagine what it'll be like making a second one for the same circumstances for an "away from home" bike?
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was a student, a friend Sam would come and stay (to go to rock nightclubs in Sheffield, those were the days), she didn't like our street (it was rough), so she rode her bike into the house (we made a makeshift brick ramp to help with the step) through the living room, and into the kitchen. Cue a post night club student house of chaps revving a motorbike in their kitchen. Our neighbors hated us. Really hated us.

This might not be possible or practical, but if it is possible, bring it up, the bike is unlikely to make a mess, and would look monstrously cool parked in the lounge (if poss).
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Leaving bike outside overnight, how? Reply with quote

All the posters telling you to chain the front wheel with the chain off the ground are correct. This will be enough to stop the casual joy rider.

Just make sure the chain remains nowhere near the ground or can be moved towards the ground.

I'd go the whole hog and get a seriously fat chain and strong lock.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Bendy wrote:
Will you be able to hear the alarm from your house?

Depends if the girlfriend is a screamer, surely?

Is this another spanking new CBF125? And you're planning to park it in the exact same spot that the hyenas dragged your old one away from? Thinking

OK, it took them two bites to dispatch the old one, but that means they came back for it, and they'll have a taste for it now. It's not really a question of if they have a go at it, it's when, and how tooled up they'll be.

Honestly? I wouldn't, not with any bike that I couldn't afford to lose. If you're going to do it anyway, then I'd say bite the bullet and buy an Almax chain, and secure it to solid street furniture.

If you can't afford Almax, well... can you afford to lose another bike? You'll already dealing with one insurance claim, can you imagine what it'll be like making a second one for the same circumstances for an "away from home" bike?


In the end, you guys are completely right, and I'm sad to say but I won't be riding to Northampton for overnight stays anymore. I'll just grab the bus up until I find somewhere I can leave my bike overnight there, thats indoors or secure. Again sorry to the guy I lashed out at, it's been a stressful week in many ways. I'm only in bedford so it's only a hour on the bus and a tenner return or so.

Anyone in Northampton who feels generous enough to let me leave my bike on their property, speak up! I'll recompense you financially or alcoholically, depending on your preference.

Thanks guys,

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PostPosted: 22:10 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajbsmirnoff wrote:
a friend Sam would come and stay (to go to rock nightclubs in Sheffield, those were the days)

The Leadmill? Only place in Sheffield I found that was worth going to (3yrs in the late 90s)

skylineonfire wrote:
In the end, you guys are completely right, and I'm sad to say but I won't be riding to Northampton for overnight stays anymore

Then can I suggest you throw Pinky some +ve karma after negging him for being the first to make this very suggestion?
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
ajbsmirnoff wrote:
a friend Sam would come and stay (to go to rock nightclubs in Sheffield, those were the days)

The Leadmill? Only place in Sheffield I found that was worth going to (3yrs in the late 90s)

skylineonfire wrote:
In the end, you guys are completely right, and I'm sad to say but I won't be riding to Northampton for overnight stays anymore

Then can I suggest you throw Pinky some +ve karma after negging him for being the first to make this very suggestion?


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