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 Posted: 22:38 - 19 Aug 2012 Post subject: Cyclone Alarms - Are they worth it ? |
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Are the really worth the money?
How easy are they to wire in & do I have to cut any wires?
And I'm after what you guy's think of them ?
Thinking about putting one on my bike
Many thanks
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Worth every penny easy to wire ____________________ GOOD GAME BODYGUARD: https://i.imgur.com/8WePGgf.jpg
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They are cheap and they work.
Arguements are that any alarm is better than none versus people ignore vehicle alarms nowadays. However, that's nothing to do with the actual alarm unit.
Downside is that they may not get you and insurance discount the same as the approved installation job ones. Then again, that's nothing to do with how the unit actually works either.
In summary, buy one and then post your opinions for others to share  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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Yes.
Red wire goes to + on the battery, black goes to -
Speaker plugs into the socket, and attaches with stickypad.
Then the alarms wired and will work.
However if you want extra bits? The two yellow wires, connect one to the positive for the left indicator, one to the positive on the right.
Then your indicators flash when it arms.
Remote start & immobiliser?
Find the wire that goes from the ignition barrel to the CDI. Twist the pink and grey wires together and clip onto the wire somewhere. Clip the brown wire to it too seperately. Then cut the wire inbetween. So CDI goes to pink & grey & brown connects to the wire from the ignition barrel. I'll photo what i mean.
Immobiliser will now work, alarm will also go off if ignition is turned on without alarm disarmed.
Connect the blue wire to the trigger wire on the starter solenoid (thin wire) not the two massive bolt on wires.
Remote start will now work.
If you bought a talking version mount the 2nd speaker with a stickypad, and plug it in to the matching socket from the alarm
The clips i refer to are supplied with and join the alarm wires into existing wires. You squeeze em with pliars to make the connection. ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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 Posted: 23:54 - 19 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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okay i will try to be as informative as possible.
considering you dont say which cyclone alarm i will base this post on the £23 Cyclone C-11 alarm. Yes i do own this alarm.
good points:
Randomly coded remote controls of which you get 2. They are fairly rebust but i wouldnt go stomping on them or throwing them around.
The buttons work well and are quite "clicky" so you can feel you've pressed them.
remote reception, well mines not great, but thats because i just dumped the antenna in a hole. but it works without obstruction for a good 15-20 feet away.
125bd siren: On my bike its located under the seat with about 1" between the siren and the seat and is PLEANTY loud. place your hand over it though and its muffled. so make sure its placed somewhere you cant just cover it over with.
remote start: if this takes your fancy. be wary though, it DOES bypass the clutch switch so if its in gear and you use it, your bikes going to fall flat on its side if its on a side stand.
immobiliser: well i assume its working, not really tested it haha.
overtake warning: biggest pile of shit anyone has ever thought off.
you push a button twice and it flashes the indicators and chirps the alarm. pointless and frankly dangerous. DO NOT USE THIS FUNCTION. it DOES distract other road users and could cause a RTA because of it.
now the bad points:
chirps once when you arm the alarm and flashes the indicators, thats fine, BUT when you turn off the ignition (key still in or not, doesnt matter) it will then flash the indicators (fine thats cool) and chirp the alarm 3 times. this triple chirp is really annoying, especially if you come home late at night. it will wake the neighbors up.
remote start: sorta covered that. it bypasses the clutch switch so be wary of it if you leave your bike in gear.
onwards -
wiring:
for my bike all i had to do was remove a connector on my loom and plug it in. and it was good to go from there. other bikes this will vary but its a very simple installation.
blue flashing LED warning light:
i drilled a hole into my dash and popped it onto that, nice BRIGHT flashing led. on = 1 second / off = 1 second.
battery wear:
not had any problems, left the bike standing for 3/4 days and its still fired up fine so hasnt drained my battery and its only a tiny ass thing.
overall:
for a £23 pound alarm its definatly worth it. They claim you can turn off the engine if its stolen UP TO 100m away. but havent tested it. for the better part, if you alert your neighbors to the sound of your alarm then it will add to its effectiveness.
its a good alternative to expensive alarms and easy to operate
hope this helps. ____________________ BCF's biggest cunt list: Cansa, Pits, Rob |
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Fitted a Cyclone to my Ped years back, certainly was the best 'deterrant' I found. I didn't have the immobiliser or auto start fitted, just the alarm and wired to the indicators. Very loud which is all I wanted, for sub £30 and bugger all time needed to fit it's a no brainer really, well worth having.  ____________________ CBT: Pass 25/06/2011 Theory Test: Pass12/06/2012 Mod 1: Fail 08/07/2012
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Yep, I have the cheap one too. Easy to fit, and simple to use. The remote start is fun for surprising people
I have heard of a few problems after a year, and for some reason my speaker has stopped working. Really do need to get the multimeter out, but the rest still works, and the blue light is the main deterrent. But for £20 + you can't complain.
I have heard that people who get the talking one tend to turn it off after a while as they feel a bit embarrissed by it. ____________________ Honda Goldwing GL 1000 Current love
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Cheer's everyone
It;s for my 1993 NSR 125 FM
i will use it for the alarm and immobilizer, don't need it for the Remote start,
1- because it's pointless if your not showing it off,
2- because I'm clumsy as fuck and would probably start it in gear  ____________________ RIP jack (wheelie king), you will never be forgotten.
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But one off ebay you cheapskate. £20ish delivered to the door, new, boxed with fitting diagram for your bike.
Or get one used via your bcf ad with cut wires only one remote and no instruction for a tenner plus a fiver postage. ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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I had the cyclone c11 on my ns125 it was awesome tbh
worth every penny and when ther alarm went off it would kill the power to the bike, bit of a pita when i had the keyfob in my pocket it would randonly die on me with the alarm going off so had to attach it to keys and try not to press it lol. ____________________ GOOD GAME BODYGUARD: https://i.imgur.com/8WePGgf.jpg
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Alarms are nothing but a pain in the ass.
All the bikes ive had, they have caused more problems than they have solved.
When a bike has broken down, it was down to the Alam/immob.
In 2007 while on track at Cartegena mid corner just about to start giving it the beans coming out and the alarm/immob borks itself.
Bike cuts out, upsets the bike and i go flying off into the gravel trap.
Yea alarms are great. ____________________ Ducati 1299 Panigale
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| Wave wrote: | Alarms are nothing but a pain in the ass.
All the bikes ive had, they have caused more problems than they have solved.
When a bike has broken down, it was down to the Alam/immob.
In 2007 while on track at Cartegena mid corner just about to start giving it the beans coming out and the alarm/immob borks itself.
Bike cuts out, upsets the bike and i go flying off into the gravel trap.
 Yea alarms are great. |
use a better alarm then  ____________________ BCF's biggest cunt list: Cansa, Pits, Rob |
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Lot of mixxed opinions then :/
Just what I thought I'd get, il ask the company if I have to cut Any wires if I don't have to I am going to test the alarm out & also do a YouTube video review of it
For £22 it's a bargain !
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| Wave wrote: | Alarms are nothing but a pain in the ass.
All the bikes ive had, they have caused more problems than they have solved.
When a bike has broken down, it was down to the Alam/immob.
In 2007 while on track at Cartegena mid corner just about to start giving it the beans coming out and the alarm/immob borks itself.
Bike cuts out, upsets the bike and i go flying off into the gravel trap.
 Yea alarms are great. |
Surely you'd just remove the positive wire going to the alarm box and wire in a blade fuse socket over the two immobiliser wires to act as a bypass jumper for when you're on track?
Plug fuse in, and the ignition system works completely as normal, no immobiliser. On the cyclone you've got to install the imobiliser option anyway as stated above.
Cant see that that's an issue unless you've had it very poorly fitted. If its a temporary short that killed the ignition, the neutral switch, ignition, sidestand switch, various saftey features on the ECU, etc etc all stand the exact same chance of that happening! From what i understand theres a few honda's that actually cut the fuel pump off if they're wheelied too high. Based on your thinking there anything electronic on the bike that's connected to the engine could be accused of the same things you blame "all alarms" for!
But if you fit it yourself, you know how its wired in, and thus know how to disable it in the event of a breakdown that is alarm related.
I dont see an issue?
| beechbone wrote: | I've been looking at one of these lately too. Does anyone know if the triple chirp when the ignition is turned off applies to both the C-11 and the V2? |
Mine doesnt chirp when ignitons switched off. It says "Please arm the alarm". When i disarm it, i get a double chirp, and when i switch the ignition on i get "Alarm disarmed". S'about it
| hahadumball wrote: | I had the cyclone c11 on my ns125 it was awesome tbh
worth every penny and when ther alarm went off it would kill the power to the bike, bit of a pita when i had the keyfob in my pocket it would randonly die on me with the alarm going off so had to attach it to keys and try not to press it lol |
So basicly, you leaned on the button, the alarm armed, instantly detected power going through the ignition and reacted like its described to in the manual? I.e IGN live sees 12v when alarm is armed it thinks it's being hotwired, immobilises the bike and alarm goes off. Or you leaned on the button for the anti hijack, again arming the immobiliser instantly & cutting the power. Etc etc.
More of a user issue than a product issue
| Matty King wrote: | il ask the company if I have to cut Any wires if |
As i've stated before, the alarm comes with the splice connectors which pinch the standard wire without cutting it. The only wire you will need to cut is the ignition live if you wish the immobiliser to work, as the immobiliser acts as a switch in the wire. I.e it goes of, it breaks the connection.
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The stock wire runs down the outside, the clip goes over it, the wire from the alarm slots in next to it. You then pinch the whole thing with a pair of pliars and the metal bit pushes into the wires, and joins them. the plastic cover then clips on the outside.
The wires to the battery are attached via the standard battery terminal bolts.
I will post pictures of an install if its helpful? ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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| EazyDuz wrote: | Ive heard too many stories of these draining the battery to make it worthwhile imo.
That plus i dont want to butcher/splice any wiring. |
Mine has NEVER let the battery go flat. And what good is a fully charged battery if the bikes been stolen and is in the back of some blokes van?
You dont butcher anything other than one wire to make the immobilser work, and on certain bikes you dont even need to do that as you can plug into the igntion fuse socket with a pair of spade connectors. NOT the main fuse, the ignition fuse, which mine diddnt have.
As stated above, the connections are made with the little pinch connectors. If its that much of a worry, then dont connect the immobiliser, dont connect the indicators, and dont connect the remote start, just simply unscrew the + terminal and attach the red wire on your battery. Then unscrew the - terminal on the battery and attach the black wire. no cutting, no butchering, and it WILL still work!!
Again, as stated above  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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Please don't use those scotch block connectors - they are awful. Do it properly and solder/heat shrink everything. It takes longer but it's much more reliable. A year and 17'000 all-weather miles on my little CBF125 and the Cyclone V2 is still working perfectly. Every feature wired in. Get one.  ____________________ CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current) |
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