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| Rogerborg |
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 Posted: 14:59 - 27 Aug 2012 Post subject: Plans afoot to expand council "policing" of roads |
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Including abuse of pedal cycle advanced stop lines in case you're wondering where the properbike angle is. Anyone know if the London spycams face the front or rear of vehicles?
| AA bloke wrote: | I think the risk is the cameras will click away automatically where there is a traffic management problem, such as a badly designed junction.
It means there will be no incentive to improve junctions, given the amount of money councils can make from these fines. |
As I understand it, this is already business as usual in London.
Foul up the signs, install a stealth camera, rake in a few million then fix the signage when PATAS or someone with clout eventually calls foul, and move on to the next honeypot. They spaff on about the goal being "full compliance with no penalties" while at the same time budgeting for receiving tens of millions in penalties each year.
I guess the "End to the war on motorists" was just a cease in hostilities to develop better weapons. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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In Peterboghorror we have a smart car driving around with CCTV/ANPR on it which catches motorists out for parking illegally and issues fines, think it took £25K in 3 months which is more than the other 8 traffic wardens put together.
No doubt this new legislation will widen what this wheeled bastard can dish out charges for, and the council will invest in a good few more. Not sure if they are cheaper than putting up a fixed installation on a junction, but obviously it can cover multiple junctions/ areas in the day and perhaps cover areas when they are known to be a problem. Perhaps covering the school gates at 8am and 3pm, but roaming the city looking for yellow box/ cycle box infringements in the day time. And permit-parking infringement at night.
Then hopefully someone will set fire to it.
I can imagine councils absolutely going to town with this if it comes in.  |
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The UK isn't some commie vassal state like "North Belgium" though.
Why make a distinction for pedalists? If they can ignore traffic signals, why not us? Why not buses? Or trucks? Or cars? Can't we all make our own decisions? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| D O G wrote: | Everyone shouldn't speed, everyone shouldn't accelerate through an Amber light, but 95% of people do. |
Please provide the sources for those statistics as they are bollocks in my experience.
| D O G wrote: | I'm well aware the rules of the raod apply to me when I'm on a pushbike, I just know that I'm unlikely to get caught or endanger anyone else if a run certain red lights. |
I've done many e-stops to avoid killing cyclists with this attitude, luckily so far I haven't had a truck plough into the back of me yet.
| D O G wrote: | I run certain red lights because I don't want to lose my momentum, I'm unlikely to get caught, and I'm not endangering others, not because I think they don't apply to me. |
Same bullshit as above.
In a nutshell you're saying you ignore the law because you can't get caught and try and justify your behaviour by saying you're unlikely to hurt anyone else. ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
the men in white coats are coming to take me away.
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| nategs500 wrote: | Lately I see more and more police waiting at lights and ticketing cyclists for running them. |
Good. TS10 is a TS10, the method shouldn't matter. For the context of this rant, I treat all road traffic signs and signals as advisory (which is how I know it's a TS10), I'd just like a bit of consistency in policing of them.
Actually, the idea of super-taxing motor vehicles for using pedalist advanced stop lines at busy junctions is pretty hilarious given how few pedalists do actually stop in those locations.
Back OT, if I searched the length and breadth of the land, do you think I could find a single person anywhere who could look me in the eye and say with a straight face "I honestly believe that councils won't abuse these powers for revenue raising."  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 219 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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