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PostPosted: 16:36 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: how useless is this likely to be? Reply with quote

so changing out the brake fluid, my resevior cap screws where siezed and rounded off. tried drilling them out not to much avail. the gear lever is bent anyway so i figured i'd just replace the entire brake control unit.

ordered this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261105087102?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

i like that it has adjustable lever possitioning. the cap is freaking ugly but who really cares about that?

just wondering how long its likely to be before it goes kaput!
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think it will be fine for a 125cc and probably better than the stock if its a chinese bike. On the other hand it could be a pile of crap, just keep your eye on it as I'm sure your aware brakes are pretty important Wink
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinese 125 commuter.

i'll have to keep an eye on it, after all, i'll be using it hehehe.

the only thing it doesnt have though is a mirror mount. i tend to use my right hand mirror the most so also had to buy a universal mirror mount along side that.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

you do realize you need to take into account the master cylinder size?!

Usually a number stamped on the cylinder, must match with the old one. Your probably be very lucky or you end up with a really stupidly soft brake or a really wooden leaver that's hard to pull.

The seller doesn't seem to know what's he selling! And you don't seem to know what your buying, sorry!
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So some easily replaced screws were knackered, and an easily replaced lever was bent.
And you're replacing the whole assembly with the wrong one.

And this is an important part of the brakes.

I can't see how anything would go wrong. Make sure to test it out with a high speed ride in the rain.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CMPO do the genuine article for not much more. Just lightly copper grease the reservoir screw threads before fitting, to stop them rusting in place this time.

EDIT: Too late, just seen that you've already ordered that one.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't want to end up like this!!!

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PostPosted: 17:38 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

best advice I can give now is try it and see what its like. If its naff change it straight away and get the correct gear.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would really trust your life to a cheap ebay part from china?


I suppose since you were more concerned about getting to to light up than you were getting it running this isn't surprising.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris stop trying to flame or at least dont be such an obvious troll.

the cmpo part is only a bit more but then theres postage on top as well.

the screws, wasnt just a case of being easily replaced. they had siezed in and the heads rounded off. they wouldnt drill out either. probably due to a shitty drill bit though.

either way, the hole assembly needed replacing anyway. switch contacts where becoming corroded as well. only noticed this when i removed the old assembly and the cables didnt unplug, but the contacts snapped off.

if its utter crap, i'll send it back and get the OEM part for it. but i figured, its gotta be worth a try. had many things made in china that have lived up to what they are meant to do.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not trolling speaking the truth Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

About as useless as you.

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PostPosted: 18:31 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amusingly enough, you've not been trolled once in this thread. I expect that this will change, though.

Fitting a master cylinder and lever from an unknown source, with a 'generic' label attached to it is a potential recipe for utter disaster. As cheap and cheerful as the Chinese 125s are, the brakes are designed for the bike*. You have no idea as to what kind of hydraulic pressure that lever is designed to give, compared to the stock lever. Not to mention the fact that what you've highlighted prior to know is a minor fix, which is easy enough to perform.

As has been said outright to you, this is not a wise purchase. Fix the lever you have, replace the bolts that are knackered. There is no point in buying a generic no-name part to replace something that's as important as the front brake.

*Typically a design that's been either cloned or bought from an established manufacturing source, admittedly.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

well we'll see just how useles it really is when it arrives, i'll test it out in the car park at the end of the road before riding it anyway.

if its utter crap, it'll go back to the seller and the OEM bought instead.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seller wouldn't be obliged to accept it back, if it's not inherently defective. The problem is not with the item itself, more the fact that it's not been designed for proper function with the brake calipers you've got fitted.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
The seller wouldn't be obliged to accept it back, if it's not inherently defective. The problem is not with the item itself, more the fact that it's not been designed for proper function with the brake calipers you've got fitted.


Distance selling regulations.

The item would need to be returned in 'as new' condition though.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that you failed to drill out a couple of shitty little screws from the top of a master cylinder reservoir totally amazes me.

I usually manage to complete that task within the space of five minutes using a hand brace. All you need is a vaguely sharp drill bit, a new example of which can be obtained for less than a pound.

So. Taking into account the amount of skill, time and effort it takes to complete that one spanner job. I think you're onto a loser trying to fit an inferior quality, non-standard master cylinder to an acceptable standard.

Don't kid yourself. I just paid that much for a service kit for my master cylinder. You can't make an entire master cylinder, clamp and lever for £24 and expect it to hang together.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect the biggest problem you'll have with that lever is that it's probably going to be nearly 2 weeks before it's delivered.

Also I read about some cheap Chinese eBay brake levers before somewhere...

https://www.essexbikers.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?18489-brake-lever-warning
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

its supposed to be shipped from within the uk.

if it hasnt turned up within a reasonable amount of time or arrives with a custom/airmail or other international post then i'll simply put in a claim "item not as described" as its described that the item is shipped from the uk under the listing.

then if the claim where to win (doubtful i know, not bothered) then i'd send them a message saying "in future, its best not to bullshit your international customers"
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think yours is shipped from the UK, you could get them cheaper from hong pong.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-7-8-Universal-Motorcycle-Front-Right-Brake-Master-Cylinder-Multicolored-/271067319275?pt=UK_Other_Clothing_Protection&var=&hash=item3f1cdf0beb
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm thats crappy news. should have known it was "imported from china and sold for more in the uk".

still, its worth a shot, i mean if its utter crap then they'll have to take it back, simply because it wouldnt be fit for purpose.

will report back on it when it arrives, i'll chuck it through tests every 10mph (10,20,30,40,50,60) and see how it gets on. obviously each of those tests would be "emergency stop" braking conditions.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more I think about it I would be seriously worried about using that on your bike now. I think it would be excellent on something like a cheapy pit bike for offroad, but if that thing decides to blow your gonna be fucked. Imagine you have to brake hard and it fails on you when your least expecting it! In all fairness I would probably use it myself, but there again I normaly end up paying the price Rolling Eyes Did you buy it today? Maybe you could email and cancel your order. I am pretty sure you can buy the whole assembly including brake caliper for your bike at around £50.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can, whole new system £50.

yeah, i emailed twice asking if it was sent out yet and not heard anything back
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

can an aftermarket part from china really be any worse than the original tat they tend to bolt on bikes made in china Confused
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