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oh, well im new to this sort of thing, so pointers on what to ask ect.. . would also be greatly appreciated.. only passed test on 9th Oct.  ____________________ CBT passed 22/01/2012 Theory Test Passed 14/04/12
Mod 1 Passed 17/09/2012 2nd time Mod 2 Passed 09/10/2012 1st Time
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a 2011 plate!! It shouldn't have rust, pitted forks etc.
See how much warranty is left. I think Yam do 2 years on their bikes so you should be safe
Whats the mileage?
I have heard nothing bad said about them which is usually a pretty good sign. It usually comes out somewhere on a bike forum if the bike isn't up to scratch.
However you can get a brand new one for £5649 from a dealer so maybe a bit of a haggle is in order.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-YAMAHA-XJ600S-DIVERSION-REDUCED-PRICE-/190737704834?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c68da6782 ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
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| Usually_Sponnng wrote: | first thing i'd ask is "are the grips in a relay?"
theres other questions but are the usual sorta ones you'd ask. |
My god you are a pillock.
Anyway, back on track. It's a 2011 bike, I'd get the mileage before you even get out of bed, then check prices in autotrader for similar.
They're very popular commuter or courier bikes, if it's been abused at either one of those tasks, it will most likely show in the miles.
See whether it's been kept under cover or not, the general condition of the bike should be excellent, given it's at most a year old, but pay attention to bolt heads and exposed parts; some may get 'furry' with road salt and lack of care.
As a first bike, it would be ok. Bit gutless, neutral feeling and confidence boosting. You might decide it's a bit boring after a while though. What are your long-term plans for biking? Touring? Commuting? Chucking it into a gravel trap? It'd do the first two well, the last not so much.  |
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| Usually_Wrong wrote: | noobish things, but trying to help |
Not every bike should be judged by the typical failings of a Chinese bike, so yes, better-informed opinions would be of greater use at this point.
Given that it's a one-year-old bike from one of the Big Four, I'd suggest that if there's nothing visibly wrong with it (leaks, rattles or scrapes), it's probably fine. As with Polarbear, I've not heard anything negative about them, so go and ask for a test ride, if you like it, and it sounds good and rides well, then you've bagged yourself a good deal*.
Check whether it's got an FSH - for a bike that's a year old, that shouldn't be a big ask, but it will be worth knowing about if it's had a lot of miles put on it.
*Pending a strong haggling session, thanks for Polarbear's link to a properly cheap new one. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project
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| Usually_Wrong wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | a 2011 plate!! It shouldn't have rust, pitted forks etc.  |
and yet its STILL worth checking for rust and pitting. less i remind you of the hammer 8 thread? |
OK - quick general lesson for you. American bikes are traditionally allergic to UK weather, because they don't do precipitation over there, and they definitely don't do road salt. The level of finish on Japanese bikes can typically be ranked (from worst to best) as Suzuki, Kawasaki*, Yamaha* and Honda, in that order. They're significantly tougher than that Victory was, because Japan's just as good at heavy rain as the UK is.
Until you have some idea as to what you're on about, you're not in a position to argue the point.
*Some people may contend that these two should be swapped over, but I'm basing it on my experience of them. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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I would apologise, but it'd be disingenuous. You've purchased a single Chinese 125, proceeded to bugger it up, and now feel that you're in a position to speak with any kind of authority on purchasing a much more complex, and much better-built bike.
You have no experience to draw upon, minimal knowledge to back up your statements, and are generally an inappropriately inflammatory member who manages to attract contention and ire with every single post; only to blame it on everyone else. Might I suggest that you actually examine the content of your own posts first, before deciding that the rest of the world is to blame? you seem to be the only common element in all of this. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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nowhere.elysium: Can build a 3d printer and print awesome shit.
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| Usually_Wrong wrote: | now shut up and just agree theres no reason NOT to check, which is what this is all about. you dont like me, you degrade my post, yet its actually good advice. |
Just because the Chinese think that it's OK to sell a bike that's got a silver-painted scaffold pole for a stanchion, it doesn't automatically equate to the Japanese doing the same. if anything, the Japanese know how metallurgy works, and have gotten very, very good at it.
As for there being a reason not to check; it's less than 18 months old. If Japanese bikes started suffering after 18 months to any significant degree, do you really reckon they'd have the dominant position in the world's motorcycle market that they do today?
Notice how I've only given you negative karma for the posts that are directed vitriol; for everything else, I've managed to maintain a civil debate, as opposed to saying such wondrously funny things as 'now shut up and just agree', which is by far and away the most absurdly funny thing I have seen on here in years.
More to the point, the chances of my dying due to some maintenance issue is distinctly lower than the chances of you writing yourself off for the same reason, because I actually know how to service my bikes, and made a point of learning from the people people on here, as opposed to telling them repeatedly that they're all wrong. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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It's not good advice UW, it's completely redundant.
The best one is check for the MOT On a 1 year old bike!
The problem is you're posting this to a newb who takes it as gospel.
There's nothing wrong with being uninformed on a particular subject; most intelligent people will admitt to not being proficient in something, but not knowing something and posting inane shite is stupid, pointless, and gets on people's nerves.
TL;DR? Shut the fuck up. |
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| Usually_Wrong wrote: | your the one who decided to turn around and state that checking for something as simple and common as rust or pitting is bad advice.
you know what, do what ever you want, i'll do what i want, im more than happy to look at a brand new bike and check for rust or pitting.
at least i will know its there or where its beginning to form.
if you get injured or die because you trusted something that takes 30 seconds to look for, its not my fault.
whats that old saying?
oh right..
better safe than sorry.
now shut up and just agree theres no reason NOT to check, which is what this is all about. you dont like me, you degrade my post, yet its actually good advice. |
He's not saying that you buffoon. He's saying that it's most likely not even on the scale of things to worry about with a year old bike from a quality manufacturer. The likes of which YOU haven't owned and thus aren't exactly over-qualified to have weighty opinions on.
The bike most likely will be immaculate. Asking whether the heated grips have a relay on (cos, derrrrr, I dunno, like, some internet bloke told me to ask it?!) will probably make the dealer laugh his ass right off his bumcrack.
People come on this forum looking for advice. The advice you give is frankly, and in fact, laughable - I know because I laugh at it. I don't see why this chap has to sift crap answers before getting some solid advice just because the keyboard-finger squits-fairy has let go all over the forum again.
Hope this clears the situation up.
And - I'm not going to downrate your posts because I'm bigger than that, karma has a funny way of putting things right. |
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| Usually_Wrong wrote: | i give up with you, sometimes your alright, other times you can be a real asshole for no reason. you have a real god-complex sometimes. |
No, I just respect competence. If you make a point of not displaying it, I will treat you like you're an idiot. Simple as that.
As for no dealer laughing at it, how many dealers have you bought bikes from, might I ask?
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