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Sbilley
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: First big bike Reply with quote

Hi guys! I'm looking at getting my first 600cc bike but just wanted some advice. I currently ride a yamaha yzf r125 and am looking to step it up to a R6 this summer. I will be using it every day to get to work and general commuting.... Im not quite sure what year to go for as ive got a budget of around £6000 but I want a bike that looks seriously sporty.

Im currently looking at the Rossi replica in blue and white....
Are there any other colour schemes that would look really nice? and would it be better to get it sprayed?


Thanks for your time!
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: First big bike Reply with quote

Sbilley wrote:
....I want a bike that looks seriously sporty....
Im currently looking at the Rossi replica in blue and white....

Race reps are not to my taste, but each to their own... The Rossi rep is probably my favourite

What I would suggest is that by being more noticeable, you may be slightly more prone to being stopped by plod... and depending on what areas you're riding in, potentially attracting attention from the local chavs too

Really nice lloking bike though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

125 to a super sport 600, I'd leave the re-spraying till after your funeral.

stay safe Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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125 to a super sport 600, I'd leave the re-spraying till after your funeral.

stay safe Very Happy


Thanks for that, but im not looking to be stupid on it lol..... My mate had a 125 and now has a 600.... I wouldnt want a 250 or 400 coz i've always wanted a bigger bike.

What colour schemes are good for a R6 and what year?

Thanks Wink
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The r6 should be a 2000 in red and white

https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/yam-r6-x1.jpg

The best looking ones i recon Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sbilley wrote:
im not looking to be stupid on it lol

Then you're probably missing the point of it.

Wild assumption: you'll be sitting the A2 test and getting a 25kW license.

If you're not intending to be "stupid", then why bother restricting an R6 to 25kW? Any other 25kW bike will be just as sensible.

If you're not intending to restrict it, then, well, have you got a hot girlfriend, and can I have her number? I don't want her getting lonely.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick with a standard paint scheme, good quality race rep jobs are hugely expensive to repair should you drop the bike (and you will).

Also note Rogerborg's comments, if you are restricting it you're effectively chopping away the very top end the motor needs to be in to go anywhere with any kind of haste.

If it was me I'd personally get a ~2 year old ER6F (The ZX6r lookalike) and ride around on that for a couple of years till your restriction is up, the comparatively unrefined motor and much lower gearing will make it feel quicker plus the softer suspension and taller bars will make it much more enjoyable on the commute.

Also note you'll learn more on a easy going bike that you have confidence in as opposed to a stiff sharp bike that is trying it's best to frighten you.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb's spot-on Thumbs Up You'll probably be able to ride the ER-6 faster than you would an R6 anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You already seem to know what bike you want. But isn't it a bit pointless asking other people which colours are good? I don't know, for example, if you like 90s green and purple colour schemes. It's a bit like me asking you what kind of cheese I like. It's cheddar, mostly, but that's beside the point.

Nice to see Roger looking out for your hot Mrs tho Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get the one you like, 6k can get you ALOT of bike.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your advise guys..... I dont intend on restricting it tho that would be pointless. I never mentioned anything about cheese and girlfriends so please just stick to the original post....

I was only wondering what colour schemes are good, and what the difference is in terms of the year.... Green and purple sounds quality! And the red and white is nice too.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

But will you be on an A2 license?

And I too have a hot girlfriend and lurve cheddar, which do I love most though Thinking
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sbilley wrote:
thanks for your advise guys..... I dont intend on restricting it tho that would be pointless. I never mentioned anything about cheese and girlfriends so please just stick to the original post....


We didn't tell you what you could or couldn't ask; dont tell us what we can or cannot offer in reply!

Personally I would go for the most common colour option, probably blue.... the panels that remain unscathed will be more salable by the executor of your estate.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sbilley - there is a lot of truth in the advice you are being given, and also a touch of pessimistic bullshit.

YOU are the deciding factor in whether or not you make it though the year unscathed, be it on a 125 or a 1000cc. You can go from a 125 to a 600 without killing yourself, i and many others have done it. The bottom line is the bike will only do what you tell it to, dont ask too much of it, or yourself, and you should be fine. But ride the R6 like you ride a 125 and it will spit you off in a heartbeat. You need to have serious respect for the machine you buy, and take your time building up to being "fast". It doesnt come overnight, and trying to rush the process will see you in hospital or a bodybag.

Personally, buying a 6k R6 as your first big bike seems rather pointless to me. theres a fair chance it will be dropped or sent down the road at some point in your first year or two, so maybe starting off with something a bit a) cheaper, and b) more forgiving would be a wiser move.

if however you absolutely MUST have an R6, then colour choice is an entirely personal thing.

All the best!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: First big bike Reply with quote

Sbilley wrote:
Hi guys! I'm looking at getting my first 600cc bike but just wanted some advice. I currently ride a yamaha yzf r125 and am looking to step it up to a R6 this summer. I will be using it every day to get to work and general commuting.... Im not quite sure what year to go for as ive got a budget of around £6000 but I want a bike that looks seriously sporty.

Im currently looking at the Rossi replica in blue and white....
Are there any other colour schemes that would look really nice? and would it be better to get it sprayed?


Thanks for your time!
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Sbilley wrote:
RePT wrote:
125 to a super sport 600, I'd leave the re-spraying till after your funeral.

stay safe Very Happy


Thanks for that, but im not looking to be stupid on it lol..... My mate had a 125 and now has a 600.... I wouldnt want a 250 or 400 coz i've always wanted a bigger bike.

What colour schemes are good for a R6 and what year?

Thanks Wink


Just for the looks then? Wink

Oh and sporty? I commuted to Uni every week when I had my GSXR. I told myself it was worth it in regards to insurance and comfort.

After a while it isn't. Don't think you'll be any different, it eventually does your back and shoulders in.

250 miles in a day and I could barely get off it after. Think practical. You will regret it.

Oh and not restricting it, dangerous game.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont forget the insurance, which if your under 21 and on a supersports bike?...

Good luck getting insurance, i only just managed to get TP cover on my FZR600 91 with 3 year no claims and it still cost me £1000.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of people go from a 125 to a super sports, if you want a super sports go for it.

Yeah you might bin it, but you'll look awesome doing it!
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a 600 but not a race rep - it will end in tears when if you drop it - a normal paint job is much easier to sort out.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Plenty of people go from a 125 to a super sports, if you want a super sports go for it.

Yeah you might bin it, but you'll look awesome doing it!


Some even live to tell the tale, BUT.....

600 SS does one thing.... FAST and it does it EASY.

A shear excess of capability even an experienced rider would be foolish to trying to exploit on the public road, will let a numpty newby go FAST without any effort or skill or comprehension of what they are doing. The brakes, suspension, and power will flatter them, make them THINK that they are some kind of riding GOD, because they have (so far) managed to 'tame the beast' every one said would kill them, when in fact the bike is simply so 'good' and has so much competance, its letting them get away with being a complete numpty with it....

Many can ride these bikes an entire life time and NEVER appreciate what the bike is doing for them, or living in the cocoon of the bikes envelope, never being challenged to actually improve thier riding beyond what they had on a 125....

They are NOT a great choice for a newbie rider.

If you want a 'big-bike', no shame in that, though these days, 600's aren't really considered 'big', they are where most riders start thier over 125 career.....

And TBH I would have fewer qualms sticking a newby onto an XJ900, or a 900 Speed Tripple than I would an R6....

XJ9, is big, heavy and 'soft', a few months on a bike like that will soon teach you you are no paragon of riding..... it will wibble and wobble and get all out of shape from brutal throttle, and clumsy cornering... and that big soft fuzzy margin of 'feed-back' will tell you to DO something different and up YOUR game and be a better rider.

Nothing to do with the bikes size, or capability, everything to do with its nature.

Want something 'Sporty Looking' as a newby? Then look at the twins, and SV650, is a 'big-bike' a moped larger in cc's than an R6, still with reletively sharp styling, if you get the full-faired version, BUT a bike that will offer you a LOT more riding 'experience' than hiding behind the sanitised over capable, hard edged 'bubble' of an R6, WHICH you may enjoy, but without any references other than your R125 to judge it by, you will never apreciate, let alone be encouraged to get the best out of.

Meanwhile; it will encourage you to be a twat with it, teaching you every time you twist the throttle that bit further that you CAN twist it that far, AND live to tell the tale... until you dont, or some-one slapps enough points on your licence to discourage you, or you wake up in casualty wondering what the fuck went wrong.

End of the day, it IS your choice..... but an R6 straight of a 125? Not REALLY a smart one....

If that's the bike you really want, fine. But my advice; get an SV or a GPz500s for a year or so, first. Get some miles under your belt, learn something 'more' about riding, THEN get an R6... you will enjoy it more, and apreciate what it does for you a whole lot better, as WELL as stand much better chance of not hurting yourself so bad.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to admit, having gone from a 125 to an SV650s, then onto a thundercat, the SV (any Vtwin) gives you all kinds of feedback that the IL4s dont. It is far easier to go a LOT faster on an IL4, but without that feedback from the bike, it is far easier to find yourself getting out of shape.

I know, as i nearly bit the bullet under the wheels of a 4x4 today, on a bend that didnt phase me one bit on the SV.
Reason being i could feel what was going on with the SV, i didnt have to look at the clocks, or overthink anything, it just felt right and it was.

The IL4 gives very little feedback from the engine, and i got a bit carried away with myself so i was in too fast, then on the brakes when i should have been turning, then on the wrong line, pushing out into oncoming traffic. Luckily my reactions were the correct ones, and i pushed the bike down hard into the corner and prayed! If i had touched the brakes, i was off. No iff's but's or maybe's, brakes on and i was under that 4x4.

Thankfully despite the conditions being shite today, the 023's did their thing and held on to the road tight,and i got round with literally inches to spare. I have never put a bike so horizontal and in all honesty i dont want to have to do it again unless its on a track! I absolutely shat myself, had to stop off for a cig ( or 3) shortly afterwards.

Still, at least i no longer have a chicken strip on the left side anymore! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you actually thought about insurance?
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Sbilley wrote:
im not looking to be stupid on it lol

Then you're probably missing the point of it.

Wild assumption: you'll be sitting the A2 test and getting a 25kW license.

If you're not intending to be "stupid", then why bother restricting an R6 to 25kW? Any other 25kW bike will be just as sensible.

If you're not intending to restrict it, then, well, have you got a hot girlfriend, and can I have her number? I don't want her getting lonely.


can i have her after you 125 to a r6 Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my limited bike knowlage .How about a cbr600f.got looks.but a better choice for a new rider than a r6.i think 2k can get you a decent bike.with change left for a rainy day Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 12 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my limited bike knowlage .How about a cbr600f.got looks.but a better choice for a new rider than a r6.i think 2k can get you a decent bike.with change left for a rainy day Very Happy
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