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Oh for fuck sake, I enjoyed going there on a Friday night as it made a change to drinking, but what about the quads and cars that do burn outs etc aswell?
This was a long time coming, especially after the bottle the got put through the police cars window the other night, I'll dig out the photo... ____________________ Malaguti F12 Phantom-Dead, Suzuki AY50- Dead, NRG power DD LQ, CBR125.
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So on closer inspection, I'm talking shite and it's not the road I was thinking about  ____________________ Malaguti F12 Phantom-Dead, Suzuki AY50- Dead, NRG power DD LQ, CBR125.
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Also can you really just close a road for bikes? Suppose you can for cars etc so I guess its possible.
What happens if you go down there anyway? ____________________ Malaguti F12 Phantom-Dead, Suzuki AY50- Dead, NRG power DD LQ, CBR125.
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So let me get this straight;
Nimbys are up in arms about 'all the bludy Bikers' & moan at the council.
Council moan at the coppers.
Coppers fail to 'remove' the problem, by turning out in large numbers, and harassing the bikers; let alone banging them all up for ALL of these illegally noisy machines and dangerouse riding antics, under statutory road laws.
So coppers go to the courts and get 'Dispersal orders'.... to prevent people gathering..... Fail to effect disired outcome of making all the bikers piss off with them either...
So council... by some dint of the TRO legislation for roads maintenence, or by by-law.... impose a traffic restriction making it illegal for BIKES ONLY to go down a certain road......
So... if the bikers were breaking the law to begin with.... and that remains in doubt..... they are hardly likely to be further deturred by a 'No Bike' sign!
And if coppers cant get proper convictions for REAL crimes like speeding or dangerouse driving.......
Oh! No... the new law means that a bike only has to BE there.....
RIGHT... now I get it.
Then end of a very nasty wedge this one..... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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As far as I can tell, Rainsford Road isn't even on the same side of the North Circ as the Ace. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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It looks like an industrial estate on Google Maps. Seems a bit pedantic, really.
I could sort of maybe a little bit understand a really heavily built up road with a school crossing on it or whatever. It'd still be ridiculously harsh and Political Correctness Gone Mad and whatever.
But that place? Surely that's where you want the troublemakers, far away from kittens? There's a hospital... but so what? Ambulance drivers are highly trained, right?
https://goo.gl/maps/Skszt
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So if cars where doing the same 'disruptive driving' in the area, they would i presume ban cars - i.e lets say 90-95 percent of what uses the road, from using the road to be fair and non discriminatory... right ?
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Never been there before, but now that it has been banned, I want to  ____________________ Malaguti F12 Phantom-Dead, Suzuki AY50- Dead, NRG power DD LQ, CBR125.
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How will this be enforced?
Police/Camera Presence 100% of the time?
A sign by the road, which will get knocked over... ? ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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Ace Cafe could be very fun on Friday during the summer as a biker, but I see why residents would be unhappy. Not everyone likes noise and sometimes the bikers would create a lot of traffic.
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You still got the Cub multijoy? If so, i'll race you on mine around roundabouts to see what happens  ____________________ [Current Bikes - GSXR-750 K5 & C90-97 ] [Previous Bikes: Runner 125, YBR 125, GS500, Bandit 600, Hornet 600, ZX6R-99, C90-99, R1-99, XT600E-04, GSXR-750 K4, CRF250L '16] |
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| Clutchy wrote: | Also can you really just close a road for bikes? |
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 S6 (3) (d) allows orders specific "to traffic of any class".
Although what's a "class"? It's not defined there. Highways Act 1980 Schedule 4 lumps motor cars and motor bicycles of at least 50cc in "Class I", but that's for purposes of "special roads" (i.e. motorways).
They can certainly try defining motor bicycles as a "class". Who will stop them?
| Clutchy wrote: | What happens if you go down there anyway? |
Verrrry good question.
Traffic Management Act 2004 allows for civil penalties which is likely what they're sniffing after, but what's the offence?
RTA 1988 36 (1) or Traffic Management Act 2004 Section 8 create one, but only when ignoring a sign defined by Regulations (and I don't believe there is one for motorcycles and peds) or "authorised by the Secretary of State".
So they'll have to apply to Hammond for permission to create a sign, and until and unless it's authorised, it has no more meaning than a "No minicabs, white vans, Nissan Micras or tarts in 4x4s" sign put up by me or thee.
I trust that the BMF and MAG will know this and will be sorting it out. A judicial review would be an expensive way to do it, it would be cheaper to just ride past the "sign" with care and consideration and try to get prosecuted or civilly penalised, although that points right at the elephant in the room:
If folk were hooning up and down that road, then they could have been stopped by policing it.
If folk now ignore the "signs", then they can only be stopped by policing the road.
Either way, the solution isn't a sign, or an order, it's putting Dibble on the street. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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