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SpookyJam
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Spooky Needs some help deciding A.S.A.P Reply with quote

Howdy do BcF People.. Thumbs Up

Well.. after a bit of dancing around in the mini workshop, Spooky accidentally spilt hot chocolate over his project stator Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

So.. now that other bike is gone, Spooky is trying to decide over the SV650 or the GS500 for his Uni commuting and etc

I have considered the...Ninja 500 (GPZ500) & the Honda Bros & the Hyosung GT 650R

In terms of fixing it..
If i can dismantle it there's 90% chance i'll be able to fix the problem.

Yes i have given all possibilities huge amounts of research time, thought and ergo-thinkage.

Spooky's Ergo's
6ft 5
14st
Loopy, Bendy & handsome Wink


Honda Bros (Can't find one and not willing to travel FAR for a 400 regardless of its rep)

SV: Yea... Insurance is like 100 quid, keep it for like 5 months before the usual.
GT650R - i like it because its unusual but same insurance as the SV
(Understandable really)

GS5 Its weirdly comfy just like the ninja 500 but filtering on it, just isn't fun as its acceleration tosses salad unless i've played with the sprockets and etc
[Edit]
I have strongly considered the Ninja 250r, not sure how it is for commuting though


SO PEOPLE CAN YOU HELP ME!??! I'M IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT... YA KNOW?!

P.S please don't suggest a Enduro or those TDM Looking things, i have to be able to put the bike in "those" neighbourhood's theres a good chance i won't see it again if i went for a TDM or KLR
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Eddie Hitler
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's this Spooky fellow of which you speak?
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can help you.

Its not a Ninja 500, do not ruin the ninja name (more than it has been....) Thumbs Up

Uni, so cheap ass.

You want a 125.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bros will be far too small for you. I'm 6'1" and it's pretty much too small for me...so you're doomed.

Out of that list I'd get a GPZ500 (only the yanks call it a Ninja), for frugality and simplicity, followed by the SV. However I know a few curvy SV owners and the reliability hasn't been particularly fantastic.
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SpookyJam
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
I can help you.

Its not a Ninja 500, do not ruin the ninja name (more than it has been....) Thumbs Up

Uni, so cheap ass.

You want a 125.


Uni and Work and other tings' Mon!

kawak gpz500 isnt called the Ninja 500r? You sure?
You're the only person to quote that, anyway.

Usually on a horse it'd take me an hour and 15 mins to reach Uni.
Do i want a 125? or a 250? hell no.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many miles to Uni?

It is the GPZ500, not a Ninja.

I ride 5 days a week, nearly 60 miles a day on a 125 with no issues at all, its on 70,500 miles now and still going strong as ever. Anything bigger sitting at 70 would burn fuel, this is so economical.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
The Bros will be far too small for you. I'm 6'1" and it's pretty much too small for me...so you're doomed.

Out of that list I'd get a GPZ500 (only the yanks call it a Ninja), for frugality and simplicity, followed by the SV. However I know a few curvy SV owners and the reliability hasn't been particularly fantastic.



Really? well thanks for that, i didn't know it was only the yanks that did that though it would explain why anyone i've said Ninja 500r to have given me the "confused" expression...

SV reliability?
mechanical?
Electronic?
other?

If its electronic then that's not to much of a problem
Mechanical.. that depends

But thx for the input
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
How many miles to Uni?

It is the GPZ500, not a Ninja.

I ride 5 days a week, nearly 60 miles a day on a 125 with no issues at all, its on 70,500 miles now and still going strong as ever. Anything bigger sitting at 70 would burn fuel, this is so economical.


15-16 miles in total 1 way
and another 15-16 back home roughly..

Work Mileage : 22 miles 1 way and around 22 miles back

125 simply because they don't cope very well with hills with sidewinds and i live around many hills..

I think a good number of people heard me screwing about small bore torque
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpookyJam wrote:
beechbone wrote:
The Bros will be far too small for you. I'm 6'1" and it's pretty much too small for me...so you're doomed.

Out of that list I'd get a GPZ500 (only the yanks call it a Ninja), for frugality and simplicity, followed by the SV. However I know a few curvy SV owners and the reliability hasn't been particularly fantastic.
SV reliability?
mechanical?
Electronic?
other?

If its electronic then that's not to much of a problem
Mechanical.. that depends

But thx for the input


Both friends had issues with the front cylinder cutting out in wet weather. One of them has had a number of electrical issues and a dropped valve. However he did thrash it everywhere...
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
The Bros will be far too small for you. I'm 6'1" and it's pretty much too small for me...so you're doomed.

Out of that list I'd get a GPZ500 (only the yanks call it a Ninja), for frugality and simplicity, followed by the SV. However I know a few curvy SV owners and the reliability hasn't been particularly fantastic.


+1

I'm bendy enough to find the old GS500 marginally comfortable, suspension could do with adjusting...

SVS have that supersport pegs feeling on it hence me being hesitant about it as i'm used to tourer and naked types.

Fuel wise.. Anything about 50 mpg & above would be fine as i've got an old gs for city riding
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your budget? I wouldn't recommend a GS500 to anyone really...they're simple and mostly reliable but not something I consider fun.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brother had a GS, was dull and ugly but cheap and did the job.

I have an SV, it's awesome and beautiful and fantastically better than everything else.

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PostPosted: 22:25 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

But seriously.

Budget?

SV is marginally faster, no less comfortable. Has a decent bit of weather protection with fairings. I have found mine to be relatively reliable, and its used everyday and is over 10 years old.

Either are decent commuters, not much good at anything else, but boy do they commute.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZZR6? Might be a little cramped though. 50MPG if you dont thrash it and reliable. Fairings are a bitch though and it seems to struggle to start when cold. It will, but will struggle.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:
ZZR6? Might be a little cramped though.


I'm also 6'5, have run a ZZR600 with no problems other than feeling like a 125 after my usual machine, never noticed trouble with cold starting. Have also used a GS500 as a works bike with no cramping issues while doing 250-500 miles a day five days a week.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sv front coil issue can be solved with a "fender extender", Mines spot on in the wet now.

Reliabilty is the same as anything else that is 10 years old imo. I've got a bad one and its still pretty good.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paris2 wrote:

Budget?



Highly appreciate all responses Very Happy


Providing insurance is lower than £90 pcm

I'll be keeping it for 6-7 months max, mainly cuz work frowns upon me riding the same thing for longer than 5 months.
Don't ask, i lost that argument/discussion/ heated conversation.

Max spend upon purchase of Steed would be around 1500-1800 max

Yes! i have searched hard around my travel possibilities and can't find my beloved favourite bike the ZZR600. it's pretty crushing to know i won't be able to get one YET but that's how the cookie crumbles..

Fairing would be taken off till i'm used to the bike as i really can't be bothered to repair fairing constantly or even go looking for alternatives and have them resprayed without cursing for hours on end.. heh

Bike starting in the cold..
If i can get a chinese bike to start 1st or 2nd time in the cold, frost and slush without to much hassle.. then that jap bike shouldn't be to much hassle Smile
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

im 6'5 and i mange on the bros alright, although i am young. still they are quite underpowered for a big bloke
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£1500 should get you a decent curvy or an older pointy without too much hassle.

£90 insurance per month, so around £1000 a year. It is all circumstantial as we know, but my insurance is around £170 for the year so you should be ok there.

SpookyJam wrote:
Don't ask


I have to........errr what
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paris2 wrote:
£1500 should get you a decent curvy or an older pointy without too much hassle.

£90 insurance per month, so around £1000 a year. It is all circumstantial as we know, but my insurance is around £170 for the year so you should be ok there.

SpookyJam wrote:
Don't ask


I have to........errr what


Very Good to know .. Very Happy

and as for the " Dont ask" bit.

People LOVE the freedom of speech so much, they think it's fun to slander my taste in colour of bike, so i'm fed comments of how much they're tired of looking at it parked up out front making the building or their cars look FILTHY.

[Past tense]
i like to have a clean bike sometimes..
It stops police from slowing down to "look" at my bike and see if its legal and etc.

Clean Bike + Dirty reg plate = Good equation for filtering during rush hour Smile
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PostPosted: 02:41 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vfr750. Reliable should probably do around 50mpg and in budget
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PostPosted: 04:30 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're 6'5" you might have trouble fitting on and SV650, i'm 6'4" and a mate let me have a go on his once, it was crazy awkward to ride cause my feet were too far forward, but then again i'm not very bendy.

I'd say best way to find out is go down a used bike dealers or breakers and sit on a few to try them for yourself.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vracktal wrote:
if you're 6'5" you might have trouble fitting on and SV650, i'm 6'4" and a mate let me have a go on his once, it was crazy awkward to ride cause my feet were too far forward, but then again i'm not very bendy.

I'd say best way to find out is go down a used bike dealers or breakers and sit on a few to try them for yourself.


Ugg ugg me bendy, me hobbies force bendy [caveman tongue]

Already have sat on it, hence me putting it up in the 1st post.

Test drive? im not test riding a anything i'm not used to in ice and frost, i can barely walk down the road without slipping on my arse 3-4 times.

To be honest, i found the SV and others to be quite comfy, though my feet feeling forward? i'm pretty used to that.

Mate has a Gixxer 6 and i can't stop not trying to rob him off it when he leaves the keys in the bike for 2 secs. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Any bike i get stays stock for 2 months maximum.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with my stumpy pins, I find myself pondering the possibility of fettling some "highway pegs" on my GPZ500. Not a big bike.

The only reason to call it a Ninja is to troll real Ninja owners. Wink

How about a Bandit? They're a bit more man sized than either the GPZ or the SV, and you can get a nice example in your budget.

Actually, you could get a Divvy 900 in your price range.
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