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Mr Calendar



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PostPosted: 11:18 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Any advice for transferring to new handlebar - heated grips Reply with quote

Following a spill today lad's bike needs new handlebars.

Going for some affordable Renthal type.
So just wanted some advice on transferring the switches, throttle and the heated grips across.

Can the heating element be removed and refitted or would it be best just trying to get a replacement element (if so what and where)?

The heated grips fitted are Oxford ones.

As said any advice welcome.

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PostPosted: 11:27 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fail to see a problem here. Take stuff off old bars, put on new.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I fail to see a problem here. Take stuff off old bars, put on new.

Ok, thanks.

I'd just assumed the heating element might be a little fragile.
I didn't like the idea of poking a stick down the grips that might cause damage.
As in this YouTube video or this image (from here)...
https://bolty.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/remove_grip_1-300x400.jpg

So I guess usual trick heating with hairdryer then?
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest heating them with their own special built in heating element by means of turning them on and leaving them for a while.

I have heard of someone being given the tip of hooking them straight up to the battery as apparently, even the high setting on the controller is nowhere near as hot as they get. This is hearsay mind so if your handlebars catch fire, don't blame me. I'd suggest applying supervision and common sense if you try this.

Otherwise, all you need is to poke the straw of a can of WD40 up under them and gradually squirt it in as you go, or the end of a compressor blow gun and give it one squirt.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Create initial gap by putting small thin screw driver between heated grip and handlebar

WD 40 down the grip,

Take one wire coat hanger (preferably the ones with a plastic/rubber coating)and cut about 12-15 inches of wire from it.

Smooth any sharp edges created by cutting the Wire coat hanger.

Create 'L' shape from coat hanger wire ( 6 x 6 inches)

Push one side of the 'L' into the gap that was created by the small thin screwdriver. Right to the other end of the grip.

Rotate the other part of the 'L' shaped wire.

The wire will then rotate completley around the grip, detaching the glue as it rotates.

Grip should twist off freely and undamaged in any way.

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J.M.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I fail to see a problem here. Take stuff off old bars, put on new.


It's honestly as simple as this.

The oxford grips I have are a self-contained unit, so it's just like removing normal grips except a wire comes off of the end.

Only tricky part should be if somebody has stuck the grips on using an adhesive.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
sickpup wrote:
I fail to see a problem here. Take stuff off old bars, put on new.


It's honestly as simple as this.

The oxford grips I have are a self-contained unit, so it's just like removing normal grips except a wire comes off of the end.

Only tricky part should be if somebody has stuck the grips on using an adhesive.


It's almost certain that the installer would have used adhesive with heated grips. You can't run this risk of have heated grips moving about and the wires fouling your clutch or brake controls.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 29 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The grips I had on weren't stuck on. The left one twisted but it passed the MOT. Although when I replaced the bars following my accident I did drop some glue there to stop them moving.
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PostPosted: 01:58 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice.

For some reason I'd been thinking the heating element was something like these images so might get damaged...

https://www.windingroads.co.uk/shop/shopimages/products/normal/symtec_heat_demon_grip_heater_round_rocker.jpg

https://www.psnnewsletter.com/images/clients/53/grip.jpg

After looking around I agree the Oxford ones look more build into the grips...

https://www.a1motorcycles.co.uk/motorbikes/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/oxford_original_heated_grips1.jpg
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PostPosted: 02:15 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones you posted pictures of that look lik eheated rear windscreen elements are stuck to the bars then have the grips slid over the top of them.

Removing the grips should leave the element in place (held there by being sticky-backed and with a bit of PVC tape wrapped round them.)
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/drumbrake/DSCN0616.png
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That top picture has a scotchlok connector included which tells me exactly what I need to know about it... Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I fail to see a problem here. Take stuff off old bars, put on new.

You'd think so wouldn't you.
However, as this task new to me a slight technical hitch.

Switch gear and grips removed easily. Grips slipped off after a squirt of WD40. Did notice a lot of glue residue though (left only). Thinking do I need to get more glue for assembly?


However, with the bar end weights. These are screw fitting into the bars. The fitting has a spot weld to hold it in place. So therefore I'm thinking can't use existing bar weights. This as even if I drill out the weld to remove I can't secure them in new bars.

Also existing bar ends fit inside the grips. The grips overhand the bar end and the weights have a step that fits inside grip and then expands to the grip diameter.

I'm thinking after-market bar ends will fit snug to the end of the bars (those with the expanding raw-plug type fitting). So that makes measurements taken for where the switch gear fits on existing bars wrong.

So is there a quick way to set up the switch gear. Only method I can think of it assemble the grips. Mark the bit on switch gear that fits in the bars with some marker (paint/tip-ex/whatever) and offer it up to the bars. Then disassemble the thing, drill where the marks are then put it all back together. Silly me thought it would be a simple once only assemble job.

So any shortcut or alternative method suggestions welcome.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiddakidda wrote:
It's almost certain that the installer would have used adhesive with heated grips. You can't run this risk of have heated grips moving about and the wires fouling your clutch or brake controls.


Wrong. The left hand side is generally held in place by the bar end so it can't rotate and the right one is glued to the throttle tube that would get transferred to the new bike. Even if the left hand grip glued in pace you take everything off the bars, hold one end in your hands, other end with grip between your feet and pull the bar out of the grip.
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