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PostPosted: 13:38 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Just found a dead body! Reply with quote

Out in the forest with my job and we took a forestry road that's not often used and saw in the distance something lying across the road. Instantly thought "shit this doesn't look good". Turned out to be a hiker lying on his front, dead. Went over to make sure but he was stiff as a board.

Really weird because I thought it would have affected me somehow but it was just a surreal feeling of "hmm there's a dead guy there". Suppose it's hard to get your head around something like that anyhow. Just got sent home to relax.

Bit of a strange day, just wondering if Its going to affect me anymore than this? I feel oddly normal.

Anyone else had an experience like this?
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found more of a skeleton than a body in a ditch when we were out shooting a few years ago. Turned out to be an old tramp that used to wander the lanes and fields, the only thing that bothered me ever so slightly was the fact that no one had noticed he had been vanished / dead for months and months.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many did you find? 3? Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:57 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: Just found a dead body! Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Out in the forest with my job and we took a forestry road that's not often used and saw in the distance something lying across the road. Instantly thought "shit this doesn't look good". Turned out to be a hiker lying on his front, dead. Went over to make sure but he was stiff as a board.

Really weird because I thought it would have affected me somehow but it was just a surreal feeling of "hmm there's a dead guy there". Suppose it's hard to get your head around something like that anyhow. Just got sent home to relax.

Bit of a strange day, just wondering if Its going to affect me anymore than this? I feel oddly normal.

Anyone else had an experience like this?


Did you check his wrist-watch?
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often wonder how i'll react to a dead body...

Probably get a boner.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you not have sex with it?
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're doing the correct thing in discussing it. Tell people, talk it over. The 100% worst thing you can do with a potentially traumatic situation is experience it then never re-visit it.

How it affects you will all be down to how you rationalise it.

Dead bodies are totally normal, they are totally rational and are garaunteed to happen. Every person you meet will eventually become one.

Doesn't sound like there was foul play involved from the circumstances you describe so someone who enjoys going out for a walk suddenly drops dead while doing so. There are worse ways to go.

Don't feel bad that you have no emotional response. You didn't know this person. They are outside what The Shaggy D.A. referrs to in his signature as your "monkeysphere".
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

unless related, a dead body is just that, no real emotion I found
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Came across a RTA once where the car had flipped and drivers head had ended up between the asphalt and the top of the right hand window, a mate slid under to check if he was alive but unsuprisingly he was a gonner. Shook us up for a day or so afterwards, I think more because it was sad than anything else. More so when said mates dad who is a paramedic told us that the guy had been speeding home because his wife had phoned up saying their baby had stopped breathing, which it turned out it hadn't stopped breathing after all.

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PostPosted: 14:14 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched someone die once, in a not to pleasant way, and it has never affected me as much as I thought it would.
I think about it occasionally but more when others mention something similar and I sometimes think "if I'd have done xyz instead, could I have saved him?".

I suppose everyone deals with these things in a different way.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
They are outside what The Shaggy D.A. referrs to in his signature as your "monkeysphere".


If you haven't read this yet, read it, it's interesting! Smile

I think that in today's age we're less sensitive to death than a hundred years ago or so. It's everywhere now. We see torture in films like saw, murder in films like halloween and at least 1 dead person in every single cop show on tv... csi... ncis... law and order.

I think that if you saw a body in which you had no emotional attachment to and the body looks to have passed (relatively) peacefully, I think that not having an emotional response to it is almost normal.

The only instance I could really expect an emotional response is if the body died painfully or you witnessed it happen.

Although I've never came across a dead body, so I can't comment on how I would react to verify whether the above is true or not.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen plenty of dead people at work being wheeled around, most with faces covered, occasionally not - can't say it bothered me tbh. One of the rooms I had meetings in was a training room with various formalin pickled body parts (bits of vulva, cervix, ovaries etc etc). They also had some formalin pickled conjoined twins and foetuses at various stages of development, right from kidney bean to about 6 months for training obstetricians.

The pickled foetuses were actually quite fascinating to look at, can't say I ever had an issue with them being there although some people clearly did and would put a curtain over the display case and they have now been moved due to complaints.


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PostPosted: 14:31 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in the area minutes after a couple of suicides.... but since I was driving the bus, I didn't really think much of it to be honest... I was more concerned for the more squeamish passengers.

First one was the guy that died of a heart attack in Glasgow... everyone was trying to help him (by holding his tongue out of his mouth, then giving him a drink while still holding it), the only thing that shocked me about that was how hard the paramedic pushed down with the chest compressions...
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
They are outside what The Shaggy D.A. referrs to in his signature as your "monkeysphere".


If you haven't read this yet, read it, it's interesting! Smile

I think that in today's age we're less sensitive to death than a hundred years ago or so. It's everywhere now. We see torture in films like saw, murder in films like halloween and at least 1 dead person in every single cop show on tv... csi... ncis... law and order.

I think that if you saw a body in which you had no emotional attachment to and the body looks to have passed (relatively) peacefully, I think that not having an emotional response to it is almost normal.

The only instance I could really expect an emotional response is if the body died painfully or you witnessed it happen.

Although I've never came across a dead body, so I can't comment on how I would react to verify whether the above is true or not.


I disagree I think we have become desensitised to violence, but 100 years ago death would have been an everyday occurrence, the average life expectancy was only about 50

Anyway back on topic, when I was doing my work experience I was on my way home, I had to cut through the frenchgate centre in Doncaster to get to the train station, I arrived about 5 minutes after some women had thrown her self off the roof.

There were people there around the body, with phones and they said an ambulance was on the way so I went home.

At work the day after I was mentioning it to one of the blokes I was working with and he said she was a nurse and worked on one of the wards up stairs, that feel a bit weird

I can't say it really had any real effect on me, it wasn't nice to see but shit happens
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to read your responses.

Didn't give full story earlier. So the police turned up and turned the guy over, and he was all rigor mortused and they said there was a considerable amount of blood underneath him. That seemed weird, as if there was some foul play somehow... Who knows though as he was dressed in hiking gear on a common hiking area.

I just want to find out who he was! Feel really had for his family. He must have been in his late 40's and I imagine its likely he had kids and a family although who knows.

I'm thankful it wasn't gory and horrible.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How went the looting?

stinkwheel wrote:
You're doing the correct thing in discussing it. Tell people, talk it over. The 100% worst thing you can do with a potentially traumatic situation is experience it then never re-visit it.


Say therapists. Double blind study says...?

I've read - on the intardtubes, so you know it's true - that "pull yourself together and think about something else" is far more effective for all but the most extreme, prolonged causes of trauma. Problem is, how do you show it either way? What are you comparing it to, per individual?

Scientology may be nutty as a squirrel's retirement fund, but I suspect that Elron's view on psychlos may have something going for it.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: Just found a dead body! Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Went over to make sure but he was stiff as a board.


If he wasn't quite dead would you have finished him off?
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
I think that in today's age we're less sensitive to death than a hundred years ago or so. It's everywhere now.


I'd argue the opposite, sure we 'see' lots of pretend death on the telly, and the occasional not-to-disturbing-for-public-viewing corpse on the news. I suspect very view of us nowadays actually ever witness a death or view a dead body first hand. To the Victorians it would have been commonplace, watching your own young children die from disease, being at elderly relatives death beds, even the poor dying in the streets and the occasional execution.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be surprised if you get a bit shocked later on. When I was in a sideroom on a high dependency ward and wired to too many machines to move, a young woman walked in to my room and haemorraged to death in front of me. The crash team came and tried to resuscitate her and then left her body on the trolly in my room before the porters came and took her away.

I felt absolutely zilch. I lay there in a drug-induced miasma of self-loathing, thinking I must be a really dreadful person as I had watched someone die and wasn't upset. I fell asleep and woke up about 2 hours later in such deep shock that I ended up in the ICU.

We all react differently to death, and the worst thing is that people don't talk about it, so if our reaction isn't the wailing that you see on the tv, we think there is something wrong with us when there isn't.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Say therapists. Double blind study says...?

Was on Radio 4 last week as part of their science week event.

The study comprised three randomised groups who they showed a video of a traumatic event (such as people in extreme pain or a severe car crash).

One group discussed the event with a researcher and were updated on the outcome of the event. The second group were left to their own devices having seen it once. The third group were shown the video a second time.

The blinded follow-up surveys (which have to be at least somewhat subjective) showed the first group showed the fewest after-effects, followed by the third group and the second group showing most effect.

I don't have the reference I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:31 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post it to me, it'll give the dog something play with.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Say the rapists. Double blind study says...?


They'd say anything to stop you talking about it...
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: Just found a dead body! Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Really weird because I thought it would have affected me somehow but it was just a surreal feeling of "hmm there's a dead guy there".


The internet, BCF and Family Guy have desensitised you not only dead bodies but loads of other things.

You would be surprised how little stuff will actually freak you out in the way that expect it to.

Kind of like a large dose of sub-concious MTFU.

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