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rhys1005
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Bike value estimate Reply with quote
https://m.gumtree.com/v?adId=1005596314

Someone tell me how much they reckon my yamaha dt is worth? Paid £1300 and a whole lot on extras. Sorry about the pic.
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pinkyfloyd
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
First thing I would do is take off how much you paid for it and especially when you go on to say its been dropped a few times.

You wont get anything for the extras. Just because you liked them doesnt mean they are worth extra.

Stick it up there for the 1200 and see what you get.
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rhys1005
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I listed it for £1200 and ive had no interest. Maybe it's the pics but although what i've paid doesn't really play a part, the bike owes me about £2000. I need the bike gone so i can get myself a thundercat. Do you think £1100 and better pics will quicken the sale?

Merry xmas, Rhys.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, I've bought a 2008 bike for around that price.

I've paid nearly half what you want for an 07 125.

It is optimistic, having no interest usually means its a bit pricey, add to that Christmas is where no one has any funds left Laughing

Your bike is fairly old, there are 2000/2001 models going for around that price. Chuck a few hundred more in there and you have yourself an 06 one...
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
Well, I've bought a 2008 bike for around that price.

I've paid nearly half what you want for an 07 125.

It is optimistic, having no interest usually means its a bit pricey, add to that Christmas is where no one has any funds left Laughing

Your bike is fairly old, there are 2000/2001 models going for around that price. Chuck a few hundred more in there and you have yourself an 06 one...


Fair enough but it's only had 2 previous owners and its low mileage, the few ive seen that are 2000/2001 either have something wrong or look tatty. this bike hasn't got a spot of rust on it but i guess buyers consider age as a big factor. With the mx gear, a new spare front tyre, original parts and the aftermarket parts i listed what do you think i should list it for?

Thanks and merry xmas.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys1005 wrote:
, the bike owes me about £2000.

Merry xmas, Rhys.


Thats the thing with extras. You could throw thousands of pouds worth of extras and when it comes to selling it doesnt mean shit. Chances are it will get changed for something thats more to their taste.

Saying it owes you money because of the money you spent on it is like saying your landlord owes you rent back because you spent a night round your moms.

You've had no interest because of several reasons. Your picture is terrible. If you seriously want to sell that bike then you need a set of good quality pictures, including highlighting the damage thats done to it, if any.

As said before, you have already given the price you bought it for. Thats a big walk away point. As a potential buyer my thought would be. "Ahh he paid 1300 and he wants 1200 for it and he's dropped it a couple of times." and there I would walk away. Thats without thinking a new throttle cable means its probably been ragged.

Reading a bit more you've given figures. Look:

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since then i have added a tail tidy (£30) ufo front mud guard (£40), pro grips (£20), rethnal handlebars (£30), mini indicators (£30), dep exhaust (£60), custom stainless steel top box mount (£80), top box (£50). I also replaced a lot of things on the bike through regular service although it probably never needed them it gave me peace of mind. Still has all the original parts that were swapped like exhaust etc. Also has all the mot certificates, old receipts, and the receipt from when the bike was purchased new from the dealer for £2777.


No one cares about that. No one cares how much money you have spent on it making it look the way YOU want it to look.

Keep it simple. How about getting out tomorrow and taking some nice pictures of it. A few close up shots with pictures bigger than a gnats bollocks and keeping the advert simple.

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For sale, (bike make and model and year) an excellent example with low mileage and only 3 owners from new. Lots of extras, including a topbox and supplied with original fittings. Comes with service receipts and previous MOT certs.

For the right price I'll throw in Mx trousers, diadora mx boots, mx helmet and tinted goggles. NB Helmet is not marked road legal.

Would make an ideal learner bike and only selling due to passing my test and wishing to upgrade.


Or words to that effect.

You probably wont get your asking price and you definitely wont get your 2K back but with luck and keeping it simple you might well see 1K for it.
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
When was the piston/piston rings last done?

It may only have 12k or something on there, but at over 15 years old I'd be expecting a change or 2 Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
rhys1005 wrote:
, the bike owes me about £2000.

Merry xmas, Rhys.


Thats the thing with extras. You could throw thousands of pouds worth of extras and when it comes to selling it doesnt mean shit. Chances are it will get changed for something thats more to their taste.

Saying it owes you money because of the money you spent on it is like saying your landlord owes you rent back because you spent a night round your moms.

You've had no interest because of several reasons. Your picture is terrible. If you seriously want to sell that bike then you need a set of good quality pictures, including highlighting the damage thats done to it, if any.

As said before, you have already given the price you bought it for. Thats a big walk away point. As a potential buyer my thought would be. "Ahh he paid 1300 and he wants 1200 for it and he's dropped it a couple of times." and there I would walk away. Thats without thinking a new throttle cable means its probably been ragged.

Reading a bit more you've given figures. Look:

Quote:
since then i have added a tail tidy (£30) ufo front mud guard (£40), pro grips (£20), rethnal handlebars (£30), mini indicators (£30), dep exhaust (£60), custom stainless steel top box mount (£80), top box (£50). I also replaced a lot of things on the bike through regular service although it probably never needed them it gave me peace of mind. Still has all the original parts that were swapped like exhaust etc. Also has all the mot certificates, old receipts, and the receipt from when the bike was purchased new from the dealer for £2777.


No one cares about that. No one cares how much money you have spent on it making it look the way YOU want it to look.

Keep it simple. How about getting out tomorrow and taking some nice pictures of it. A few close up shots with pictures bigger than a gnats bollocks and keeping the advert simple.

Quote:
For sale, (bike make and model and year) an excellent example with low mileage and only 3 owners from new. Lots of extras, including a topbox and supplied with original fittings. Comes with service receipts and previous MOT certs.

For the right price I'll throw in Mx trousers, diadora mx boots, mx helmet and tinted goggles. NB Helmet is not marked road legal.

Would make an ideal learner bike and only selling due to passing my test and wishing to upgrade.


Or words to that effect.

You probably wont get your asking price and you definitely wont get your 2K back but with luck and keeping it simple you might well see 1K for it.


Thanks for all that info mate i just lowered the asking price to £1,000 which is rock bottom any lower and il probably keep it until summer.

Tomorrow i will take more pics, that pic was the only one i had on my phone so it's a bit crap and i will change the description as i agree it's a bit of a story and quite off putting lol.

If it don't sell on Gumtree or here then i will list it on ebay atleast then i've got a guaranteed sale, i NEED a thundercat :p
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys1005 wrote:
i NEED a thundercat :p


Curious. Why?
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
When was the piston/piston rings last done?

It may only have 12k or something on there, but at over 15 years old I'd be expecting a change or 2 Thumbs Up


Not sure as i haven't done many miles on it and it rides smooth, no mechanical issues so far. Im guessing the previous owner did because he is always rebuilding his Fireblade whenever i see him. There's a lot of receipts too so probably some clues in there somewhere.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
rhys1005 wrote:
i NEED a thundercat :p


Curious. Why?


New part time job means commuting 30 miles on motorway so the fairings will do nice and i'm 18 so can't afford a car. I got a decent insurance quote on one too, a lot better then other 600's i was looking at e.g. Honda hornet. I love everything about them, i've wanted one since i was 16 and always been a fan of its big brother r6. *day dreams* Wink
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dont forget to add a brief description of any damage, even if its just "a few scratches that you would expect from road usage. " and good luck.
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can say that the Thundercat was a good bike... but I think for all round working on, it is a right cow.

If I was to have looked harder, I could have found the same price insurance TL1000S which would have roughly the same speed, but deliver it in a much more bad ass way

https://yesterdaystheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tb.jpg Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
Dont forget to add a brief description of any damage, even if its just "a few scratches that you would expect from road usage. " and good luck.


Will do, thanks for your help mate! Smile
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
I can say that the Thundercat was a good bike... but I think for all round working on, it is a right cow.

If I was to have looked harder, I could have found the same price insurance TL1000S which would have roughly the same speed, but deliver it in a much more bad ass way

https://yesterdaystheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tb.jpg Thumbs Up


Lovely bike! I can insure the 'cat for £700 which is actually great compare to my other quotes although still expensive. I know they are quite bland and there is better out there but the insurance on a 1000 would rape me at my age, i couldn't even get a quote for a cbr600f oh wait.. i got one offer for 8 grand third party 0.o

How much did you pay? If you don't mind me asking.
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys1005 wrote:
How much did you pay? If you don't mind me asking.


For bike, £1150
For insurance, £280

As it stands, insurance on a TL1000S comes out at £185 where as a Thundercat is coming up £206 Thumbs Up

They are fun and handle ok though, but doing this makes the head bearings go all mushy...

https://yesterdaystheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wheeyyyy.jpg
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
rhys1005 wrote:
How much did you pay? If you don't mind me asking.


For bike, £1150
For insurance, £280

As it stands, insurance on a TL1000S comes out at £185 where as a Thundercat is coming up £206 Thumbs Up

They are fun and handle ok though, but doing this makes the head bearings go all mushy...

https://yesterdaystheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wheeyyyy.jpg


£280 insurance! Im jealous.. I will do a quote on the tl1000s then but usually people get good quotes on the cbr600fs too but i think my age plays a big part.

Yeh uhh that won't be a problem for someone that can't get the wheelie a inch off the ground Embarassed

Thanks for the help pal Thumbs Up
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