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ttboy1988
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Keeping the bike inside the house, got questions, fumes Reply with quote
Hi guys, I havent got a garage and i cant bear to see my bike standing outside even with a cover on. I have moved my bike inside my living room, pretty soon i relaised that not a good option as there a fumes from the petrol.

I have seen lots of people keeping their bikes indoors over winter. Can someone tell me the way i need to prep a bike to keep it indoor for about another 4 months.

its thundercat ysf600r
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-Matt-
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Drain the tank Razz or are you still using it regularly. Friend that keeps his indoors puts a towel over the cap, seems to work for him even leaving a full tank of fuel in.
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ttboy1988
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Drain the tank Razz or are you still using it regularly


Is that just taking all the fuel out of the tank (only tank?) or do i need to dry or empty the carb? (bike numbpty)

No not using it anymore, probs gonna start using it around april
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
It'll be OK so long as it's not sat next to a radiator. I had one of mine in the dining room on display and it was fine even with fuel in the tank.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other Paul Rudd wrote:
It'll be OK so long as it's not sat next to a radiator. I had one of mine in the dining room on display and it was fine even with fuel in the tank.


oh crap its sitting next to the radiator, is that whats setting the fumes off ?
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
Drain the tank Razz or are you still using it regularly. Friend that keeps his indoors puts a towel over the cap, seems to work for him even leaving a full tank of fuel in.


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I have seen lots of people keeping their bikes indoors over winter. Can someone tell me the way i need to prep a bike to keep it indoor for about another 4 months.


As above, drain the tank, start bike up to drain carb. Jobs a good 'un. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
ttboy1988 wrote:
oh crap its sitting next to the radiator, is that whats setting the fumes off ?


Yes. Laughing The fuel is getting hot and evaporating, probably more than it would on a 30 degree day in summer.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah, missed you said for 4 months Whistle

If you go with syphoning it out rather than riding it until its empty and you're likely to do it every year/few times a year one of these comes in handy

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MANUAL-HAND-SYPHON-PUMP-Oil-Water-Petrol-Diesel-Fuel-Liquid-Transfer-Pipe-/281220871135?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item417a11f3df

Saves a mouth full of fuel if you do it wrong Embarassed Do it outside too or it will stink the living room out
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bike in the house?

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Nope, never.

When I was 18 I had a Jawa (combination) which blew up in a big way and was only good for spares. My dad worked with a guy who also had one, and I sold him all my spares for £30 including a petrol tank which he needed. I had hooked the sidecar onto a Honda Dream by then so I loaded all the spares into the chair and delivered them across town. The guy was working on his bike in the kitchen, and I asked him if he didn't think it was a bit dangerous. He said no he always worked on the bike in there, I dropped off the parts and left.

Next day my dad came home from work to tell me he had a petrol fire which burned down his house, and he lost four of his kids in the blaze.

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ttboy1988
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other Paul Rudd wrote:
ttboy1988 wrote:
oh crap its sitting next to the radiator, is that whats setting the fumes off ?


Yes. Laughing The fuel is getting hot and evaporating, probably more than it would on a 30 degree day in summer.


Cool, may need to turn the radiator off, the one thats next to it.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ah, missed you said for 4 months Whistle

If you go with syphoning it out rather than riding it until its empty and you're likely to do it every year/few times a year one of these comes in handy

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MANUAL-HAND-SYPHON-PUMP-Oil-Water-Petrol-Diesel-Fuel-Liquid-Transfer-Pipe-/281220871135?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item417a11f3df

Saves a mouth full of fuel if you do it wrong Embarassed Do it outside too or it will stink the living room out


Cheers mate, will order one of these, does that mean i don need to take the tank off to take the fuel out, can just do it with this little gizmo
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete. wrote:
Bike in the house?

Pete. wrote:
Nope, never.

When I was 18 I had a Jawa (combination) which blew up in a big way and was only good for spares. My dad worked with a guy who also had one, and I sold him all my spares for £30 including a petrol tank which he needed. I had hooked the sidecar onto a Honda Dream by then so I loaded all the spares into the chair and delivered them across town. The guy was working on his bike in the kitchen, and I asked him if he didn't think it was a bit dangerous. He said no he always worked on the bike in there, I dropped off the parts and left.

Next day my dad came home from work to tell me he had a petrol fire which burned down his house, and he lost four of his kids in the blaze.


surely this is because the bike had petrol in the tank ? stuff aint gonna blow up just like that,
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete. wrote:
Nope, never.


In an old house our garage was mostly carpeted, full of furniture, and connected to the house as the bathroom was above it. By that logic I shouldn't have been working on a bike in there.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
ttboy1988 wrote:
Cheers mate, will order one of these, does that mean i don need to take the tank off to take the fuel out, can just do it with this little gizmo
Should be okay depending on the shape of your tank and how easy it is to get down into the crevices, obviously a very small amount will be left, but it removes the main fire risk at least. As mentioned the smell is probably to do with the radiator from the sounds of it, but a towel over the top of the cap either way would remove any remaining odour i'd think.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other Paul Rudd wrote:
Pete. wrote:
Nope, never.


In an old house our garage was mostly carpeted, full of furniture, and connected to the house as the bathroom was above it. By that logic I shouldn't have been working on a bike in there.


I never said you shouldn't, I only said I never would. One such experience is enough to last a lifetime.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I had to keep it in the house, I'd make sure it was well ventilated - those petrol fumes will be highly explosive if allowed to build up. Throwing a light switch could then be enough......But since you're going to eradicate all fuel from the bike, it should be ok.
My garage is also attached to the house, but it is well ventilated and the fumes never get to the point where you walk in and think, wow, that's a bit strong.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I kept my supermotos in my house, they wouldn't last two seconds outdoors Smile I didn't died, thankfully but there are big risks I suppose, I'm sure it's against alsorts of laws especially if you're renting.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
ttboy1988 wrote:

surely this is because the bike had petrol in the tank ? stuff aint gonna blow up just like that,


Petrol vapour is the explosive bit, and that seems to be what you are suffering from. Petrol itself is fairly safe (hence some peoples party tricks putting fags out in a cup of petrol).

Suspect if you did have a fire after this you might well find it excluded from your insurance.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:43 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Suspect if you did have a fire after this you might well find it excluded from your insurance.

All the best

Keith


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PostPosted: 09:48 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I work on my bikes in the house all the time in winter. Especially if I have a winter project. Never bring them in with the petrol tank on though, and wouldn't dream of it, stinks the house out as well.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mine has been sitting inside the house for over 2 months now.. Full tank with some Redex.. no issues. I cannot smell any petrol.

It will stay there for at least another 2 weeks until I finish fitting some bits.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Keeping the bike inside the house, got questions, fumes Reply with quote
ttboy1988 wrote:
cant bear to see my bike standing outside



ttboy1988 wrote:
its thundercat ysf600r


Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kickstart wrote:
Suspect if you did have a fire after this you might well find it excluded from your insurance.

All the best

Keith


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1. Buy a tin of Jizer and degrease engine and bike so sparkly clean.
2. Turn off petrol tap and run bike until it conks out.
3. Stuff rag into exhaust.
4. Put in house with very little odour.
5. Put battery on optimate type charger and wait until spring.
6. Spring arrives disconnect charger, take out rag, turn on petrol and away you go. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Boxing wrote:
I work on my bikes in the house all the time in winter. Especially if I have a winter project. Never bring them in with the petrol tank on though, and wouldn't dream of it, stinks the house out as well.


Same, I was looking for pics of my bikes in the house and the only ones I have are of them dismantled:

https://i.imgur.com/TL8Q2pz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ewx94D8.jpg
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