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sabian92
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 16 Jan 2013    Post subject: New law query (I know it's the millionth one...) Reply with quote
Hey,

So I've been reading up on the new law changes on Saturday. All I can say is this: What a pain in the hole.

That being said, I have a question.

I have a full car licence - if i take a CBT, can I ride up to a 125cc bike or am I limited to a 50cc hairdryer? I looked on https://www.bikelicence.co.uk/ and from what I gather there is now a test just to ride a 50cc bike if you want to progress to a 125, but it assumes you have no driving licence at all.

I know it's the millionth one but I'm confused!

Thanks Very Happy
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stuarthouston
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 16 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
You'll be able to ride a 125cc on L plates with a CBT. It's about the only thing that isn't changing! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 16 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
But don't bank on it remaining that way for long!
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sabian92
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 16 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
stuarthouston wrote:
You'll be able to ride a 125cc on L plates with a CBT. It's about the only thing that isn't changing! Thumbs Up


Ah right, is that because I've got a car licence?

If I ride a 125cc on a CBT i take it it's the whole "L plates no pillion" rule still?

Rob1970 wrote:
But don't bank on it remaining that way for long!


How so, is that changing as well? Shocked
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Rob1970
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 16 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well it seems like a bit of an unregulated loophole to me and allows people to have fun and experiment on their own without being supervised

How does that fit in to modern Britain?
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stuarthouston
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
sabian92 wrote:
stuarthouston wrote:
You'll be able to ride a 125cc on L plates with a CBT. It's about the only thing that isn't changing! Thumbs Up


Ah right, is that because I've got a car licence?

If I ride a 125cc on a CBT i take it it's the whole "L plates no pillion" rule still?



Not because of the full car licence, no. It's because you have the category A provisional on your driving licence, which is validated by the CBT. Provisional car drivers have the exact same rights.

(I'm assuming you have the category A provisional on your licence? There was a box to tick when you applied for your car provisional IIRC. Check the paper counterpart if you're not sure. Thumbs Up )

Bang on with your assumptions. 125cc (14.6bhp) max, no pillion, no motorways.
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sabian92
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
stuarthouston wrote:

Not because of the full car licence, no. It's because you have the category A provisional on your driving licence, which is validated by the CBT. Provisional car drivers have the exact same rights.

(I'm assuming you have the category A provisional on your licence? There was a box to tick when you applied for your car provisional IIRC. Check the paper counterpart if you're not sure. Thumbs Up )

Bang on with your assumptions. 125cc (14.6bhp) max, no pillion, no motorways.


Ah, right, okay. I actually don't think I have a category A on my licence (I don't remember ticking it as the time I wasn't interested in learning to ride a bike, although that being said, I may have it). Will I have to send it off and get the entitlement added if not?

Basically I can pass my CBT and ride a 125 as I can now, correct?
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you don't have it, you'll need to send it off, yeah. No harm in checking first though - I've just been informed by my brother who is a few years younger than me that he didn't have to tick a box, and just got it automatically, so the form seems to have changed since I got mine!

With that A provisional entitlement and a CBT, you're good to ride a 125, yes.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yup, check your paper counterpart, all provisional entitlement will be shown there.

Bike provisional and learning rules have changed so much over the years that you shouldn't assume anything until you've checked.

There's no reason to suppose that we'll lose soLo riding on 125s in the near future. Even if it were to be decided today, it'd take years for them to piss in the punch bowl.
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sabian92
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Yup, check your paper counterpart, all provisional entitlement will be shown there.

Bike provisional and learning rules have changed so much over the years that you shouldn't assume anything until you've checked.

There's no reason to suppose that we'll lose soLo riding on 125s in the near future. Even if it were to be decided today, it'd take years for them to piss in the punch bowl.


I did and I do have it, I looked at my photocard and it wasn't there, guessing because it isn't a full entitlement, only a provisional one.

Thanks for the help anyway, much appreciated.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
sabian92 wrote:


I did and I do have it, I looked at my photocard and it wasn't there, guessing because it isn't a full entitlement, only a provisional one.

Thanks for the help anyway, much appreciated.


Winning. Get yourself a CBT and get riding! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
sabian92 wrote:


I did and I do have it, I looked at my photocard and it wasn't there, guessing because it isn't a full entitlement, only a provisional one.

Thanks for the help anyway, much appreciated.


Winning. Get yourself a CBT and get riding! Thumbs Up
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sabian92
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 17 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
stuarthouston wrote:

Winning. Get yourself a CBT and get riding! Thumbs Up


Not quite that easy Laughing money is a problem although I was asking because I know I won't be sitting my test until after the law changes.

I will be doing it later this year, probably once the weather improves.
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