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dgo1212
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PostPosted: 04:05 - 13 Jan 2013    Post subject: DSA releases list of ‘A2’ bikes Reply with quote
Bikes officially suitable for the new ‘A2’ bike test

BMW G650GS
Brough Superior
Gilera Fuoco 500
Honda FX650, NC700, Shadow, SLR650 and VT750S
Husqvarna TR650 Strada and Terra (restricted), TE449 and TE511
Kawasaki ER5, ER6-F, ER6-N, Versys, VN900, (all restricted) and W800
KTM Duke 690 (restricted)
Moto Guzzi V7
Suzuki GSX650F, Gladius, SV650, VL800, VZ800 (all restricted) and GS500
Yamaha MT-03, TMAX, XT660R, XT660Z Tenere and YP400 Majesty

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2013/January/jan1113-dsa-releases-list-of-a2-bikes/
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sidewinder
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 13 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brough Superior ??? thought that was like a oldie Very Happy
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 14 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
They think they're funny, but they're not.

For one thing, they've forgotten about the Virago 535, and there are loads of bikes that can be restricted that they haven't mentioned. Er, Honda CB500?

The biggest headache will be that they're giving it large about requiring evidence of restriction from a "recognised restriction specialist" - not a dyno printout - which is anyone's guess. I asked back in September and they hadn't "recognised" anyone yet.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 14 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
FYI if anyone wants to look at the list it's as a pdf file on DSA Motorcycle MTV Jan13 - this clicky link.

HTH Thumbs Up

BTW I have sent email asking for a list of official sources in the York and/or Leeds area. This based on a 2nd hand motorcycle not purchased from the bike's make main dealer. Have to wait and see if/what the response is.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Restricted VN900? Isn't that just making it difficult for yourself?

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PostPosted: 15:27 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
Restricted VN900? Isn't that just making it difficult for yourself?

What part of "DSA" is confusing you? Wink
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Troy92
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
A local dealer has added some bike's that they have that are not on the dsa list

https://www.arnoldsmotorcycles.com/news-article.aspx?itemid=26055

They told me about it the other day and after i mentioned i was planning on getting a xj6 before the weather cancelled my test
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Clive L
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Up to the minute list, on the dsa website, is now HERE
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theGuvna
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
A* category?
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Vracktal
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Approved for A2 category...

Peugeot Satelis 500.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/254091/images/01peugeot-satelis500.jpg

Lolwat. What kind of licence do you get if you take the test on that? Can you even get an A2 auto-only licence?
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Clive L
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
theGuvna wrote:
A* category?


A* means it is ok for A until 2018, when the minimum power goes up from 40Kw to 50Kw. If you click on the link on the page to 'Vehicle Rules', all is explained. This includes why there are hardly any A1 bikes on the list, because any learner legal bike between 120cc and 125cc with a min top speed of 90kph will be accepted.

Vracktal wrote:
Lolwat. What kind of licence do you get if you take the test on that? Can you even get an A2 auto-only licence?


Sure, it is for riders of big scooters. Just like a car, if you take your test on an auto, you are licensed only for autos.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
A*? No idea. It's probably a reference to a very important note. That's secret. Rolling Eyes

Vracktal wrote:
Can you even get an A2 auto-only licence?

Yes, any A or B category license can be auto-only.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
A*? No idea. It's probably a reference to a very important note. That's secret. Rolling Eyes


Read my post above
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Clive L wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
A*? No idea. It's probably a reference to a very important note. That's secret. Rolling Eyes

Read my post above

Ah, got you.

I'd forgotten that Brussels had already started dicking around with the 3DLD before it had even gone live.

I'm baffled by what the benefit to mandating 50kW instead of 40 is. How much power are you required to use while on test? Eh?
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mailee
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmm, still no 750 Virago on it though...bummer. Crying or Very sad
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 25 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Virago 750 claimed 41kW, and it should be an A bike. The 535 is suitable for A2.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 30 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
map wrote:
...BTW I have sent email asking for a list of official sources in the York and/or Leeds area. This based on a 2nd hand motorcycle not purchased from the bike's make main dealer. Have to wait and see if/what the response is.

Apology for bumping this but I have just had a reply from the DSA.

I sent...
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My son would like information regarding the new motorcycle tests.

You have a list of approved motorcycles - https://assets.dft.gov.uk/dsa-bl/dsa-motorcycle-mtv-jan13.pdf
This states a proof of restriction must be supplied by an official source.

The bike he wishes to use is second hand, purchased not from a main dealer for that make.
Please can you supply a list of official sources in the York and/or Leeds area.

Thank you.

The reply is...
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Thank you for your email of 14 January about providing proof of your son’s motorbike restriction.

I am unable to give you a list of official sources in your area however; you could use the motorbike manufacturer’s website for a list of official garages in your area.

Failing this you can visit a local garage that will be able to do the necessary checks. The proof must be on a certificate or headed paper from the garage, Dyno certificates are not acceptable.

So I can conclude that there is no list of official sources. Main dealers are ok and also any back street garage with headed paper. I wonder if that includes virtual back street garages? Thinking Wink

Hope this helps clarify the situation Rolling Eyes
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 30 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
map wrote:
So I can conclude that there is no list of official sources.

Of course there isn't, telt ye so. Wink

Some OCD spacker naysaying window licking oxygen thief came up with this "rule" and then sodded off before it turned into anything remotely like work.

The thing is, it's going to come down to the individual DSA Derek on the day, so why not give your local test centre a call and ask them?
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