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carb0n
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: suggest a good wind noise canceling lid Reply with quote

Getting a new lid Saturday and i'm looking to spend around the £150 mark. Does anyone know of a decent one that cuts wind noise as low as possible. I know £150 isnt much when looking into good lids but its a present from le parents.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a HJC FG15 which I rate pretty highly.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an HJC IS-16 which is actually pretty noisy, unsure if the sun visor mechanism adds to the noise though.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ear plugs?
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
Ear plugs?

am i fuck doing earplugs every day to work Smile
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schuberth. the quietest helmet around. I have a C3.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

carb0n wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
Ear plugs?

am i fuck doing earplugs every day to work Smile
Why not? Takes about 10 seconds and saves you long term hearing damage.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earphones.
Music.
That's all I do.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

carb0n wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
Ear plugs?

am i fuck doing earplugs every day to work Smile

I have those little foam ones, you can buy huge packs of hundreds of them for a few quid. After riding on the motorway at 9...70mph for over an hour without them, my ears were ringing for quite a while afterwards.

Cheaper than a new helmet!

##Paddy## wrote:
Earphones.
Music.
That's all I do.


I'm still a little scared to forego my sense of hearing on the bike just yet, do you really need to hear anything around you?
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

carb0n wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
Ear plugs?

am i fuck doing earplugs every day to work Smile


What was that? Wink Hearing loss is not fun. Really, I wish I had been doing ear plugs every day to work, I've been riding since the end of 2006 and I already noticeably struggle to hear, especially in noisy environments, everything just mashes together, I have to strain to pick out voices, even of people sitting within a meter of me.

The worst thing is I know it is irreversible.



Edit: Also, I know me telling you that you should wear them will not make a difference, plenty of people told me I should be wearing them and I never did. More fool me is all I can say.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
carb0n wrote:
am i fuck doing earplugs every day to work Smile

I have those little foam ones, you can buy huge packs of hundreds of them for a few quid. After riding on the motorway at 9...70mph for over an hour without them, my ears were ringing for quite a while afterwards.

Cheaper than a new helmet!

##Paddy## wrote:
Earphones.
Music.
That's all I do.


I'm still a little scared to forego my sense of hearing on the bike just yet, do you really need to hear anything around you?


I only get that on the KTM. It is more the poor wind protection at high speed and the peaked Uvex helmet I wear. On the BMW I dont get this problem.

The Schuberth i dont get wind whistle, but it is a road helmet. Must have the visor down.

End result is that i use earplugs on the KTM on trips more than 50 km on a motorway. I find ear phones for music dont work and my ears would still ring. Must be proper ear plugs.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://images.maplin.co.uk/300/A33LG.jpg
Maybe these kind of earbuds would be better? They have little rubber plug bits and I find that they filter out a lot of sound over the usual style of earphones.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

carb0n wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
Ear plugs?

am i fuck doing earplugs every day to work Smile

Protip: shouting "Eh, what?" all the time like a geezer is not as gangsta as you think it is.

£3.40 of silicone putty from eBay is enough to make a two sets of custom plugs. I'd suggest one dumb set, and one moulded around some ear buds.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe any helmet is that quiet.the one I have is marketed as 'silent'. It definitely is not silent, how the fuck could it be, you need to hear traffic around you, bloody marketers and salespeople Rolling Eyes

I've taken to nabbing a load of those squishy foam earplugs from the factory across from the head office I work at, freebies Dance!

My hearing is already bad from years of raves, crazy car sound systems and listening to headphones WAY too loud. I need all the help I can get to not damage it any more Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoei QWEST is pretty quiet. But another +1 for earplugs. Wore none for a couple years whilst on the scoot (just didn't occur to me!) and my hearing is noticeably worse than it was.

Does it really take THAT MUCH out of your day to spend 20 seconds putting them in?
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to get rid of wind noise... screen + fairings.

https://i.imgur.com/wIGUgJD.jpg

If I put my chin on my tank, even my noisiest helmet makes absolutely no noise, as there is no wind.

Otherwise earplugs.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use headphones every day, I tend to be quite aware of whats going on.

What do I really need to listen for. I used to drive a loud car and have my music turned up anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of myths about this subject, I'll attempt to dispel them in a mythbusters sty-lee:

1.) You can buy a 'quiet' lid.

Busted. The noise made by each lid depends on the shape of your head, the riding position of your bike and the screen/aerodynamics of your bike. The shape and design of the lid is a minor aspect of it, and so some people find lids they use are quiet, others find the same lid noisy.

2.) It's too much 'hassle' to put ear plugs in

Busted. It takes about five seconds per ear and will probably save your hearing. They are cheap too, I got a box of 300 pairs of quality Max Lite earplugs for £16 last year.

3.) Earplugs prevent you from hearing stuff you need to hear

Busted. By far the loudest sounds you hear on a bike are the wind noise and the engine noise. The Earplugs deaden these to an acceptable level. The rest of the quieter sounds are still audible as the earplugs attenuate the sound rather than reduce it's volume across the board.

4.) Wearing earphones will save your hearing

Busted. The only way they'll save your hearing is if they are moulded earplug type earphones, and even then knowing Paddy's taste in music I suspect he listens to them far too loud to be good for his hearing. Noise cancelling earphones might work, but they would probably cancel the important noises that you can hear when wearing earplugs.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get when people say they use those in ear headphones with music blasting straight into your lug hole as some form of ear protection on a bike, these type of earphones are just as damaging to ears as wind noise is.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwakki Si wrote:
I don't get when people say they use those in ear headphones with music blasting straight into your lug hole as some form of ear protection on a bike, these type of earphones are just as damaging to ears as wind noise is.


You don't need to blast the music in, but I do, whether I'm on the bike or not. Because they're snug in your ear you can have the volume half up, it'll cut the wind out, you can hear the bike and your music clearly.

It's pure win. I only ride to music these days.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
Kwakki Si wrote:
I don't get when people say they use those in ear headphones with music blasting straight into your lug hole as some form of ear protection on a bike, these type of earphones are just as damaging to ears as wind noise is.


You don't need to blast the music in, but I do, whether I'm on the bike or not. Because they're snug in your ear you can have the volume half up, it'll cut the wind out, you can hear the bike and your music clearly.

It's pure win. I only ride to music these days.

You might want to do a bit of research on in ear headphones and hearing loss/tinnitus....
Just trying to help.
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any lid with ear plugs is better than any lid without.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 27 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use ear plugs always. Then I have a bluetooth intercom set with speakers fitted into the helmet. Saves my hearing, I can listen to tunes and also still hear cars and shit happening around me just cuts out the wind noise.
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 28 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is it actually "better" to listen to music with ear buds in...rather than not having anything in the ear? i listen to music... but when i go 50+mph i find i cant hear the music anyways.... i am guessing its because my helmet pushes them right in my ears?!
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