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1260pete
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Another turbo Reply with quote

My bandit turbo
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice!

Power figures?

Vids!
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
nice!

Power figures?

Vids!
Power not sure mate but i would say 250+ easy with this boost Smile i'll see if i can put a vid up
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200894717400271&l=6561286211240065352
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road legal? Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Road legal? Shocked
Yep all insured just waiting for the rain to stop and mot it Smile
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, CHR15 will be in shortly Laughing

Dat swingarm though.... fucking christ thats long.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Nice, CHR15 will be in shortly Laughing

Dat swingarm though.... fucking christ thats long.
I like a bit of strip action too so gonna see what it will do with the boost turned up and stretched and lowered Smile
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyup pete, welcome to bcf. Did you say you were on a 10psi spring now?

btw check out project 'cant afford a 7/11' in show and tell, you may recognise it Laughing


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PostPosted: 17:24 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:
eyup pete, welcome to bcf. Did you say you were on a 10psi spring now?

btw check out project 'cant afford a 7/11' in show and tell, you may recognise it Laughing


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Aah ay up fella yeah stuck 10psi through it now Smile it's interesting lol just ordered a 15 pound spring too for the strip Smile,,, yours is looking awesome Smile
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

15psi? at a guess id say about 350hp?


Your mad mate Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:
15psi? at a guess id say about 350hp?


Your mad mate Laughing Thumbs Up
I think with c16 will probably be just over 300 Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 12 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

carb tops wont last long at 15 psi.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 19 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
carb tops wont last long at 15 psi.
Is that all they will take Chris? well Mot yesterday and took it for a good old blast and everything works as it should, no oil leaks which is always nice, just one issue is the tank,,, there seems to be some shit in there as everytime i take the carbs off there is a load of crap at the bottom and sometimes i get a miss where one of the floats is not sealing probably because of the shit it there Sad but i must say its bloody quick,,,, had a play with a 750bhp audi rs6 yesterday and destroyed him
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 19 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You running a fuel pump/in line filter Pete?

Quite surprised you are getting shit from the tank that far down the system!
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 20 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilredmachine wrote:
You running a fuel pump/in line filter Pete?

Quite surprised you are getting shit from the tank that far down the system!
Yeah got an inline filter after the pump and its collecting ots of shit but some really fine stuff is still getting past the filter
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm can i ask you turbo guys a question at the risk of an off topic?

I see you all use external wastegates on your builds, and seem to use large car sized turbo's. Is the reason for the EWG that the internal ones can't flow enough gas past the turbine to control boost, or is it for packaging/ ease of installation?

And secondly what do you do with the internal waste gate to keep it closed or do you remove them and or weld up the turbo housing?

I'm asking as i want to upgrade to a ball bearing turbo on my car soon, but all the turbo's i see for sale have an IWG as std. My car has an external one fitted, and i can't really be bothered to change the manifold or blank it off. Can you get roller bearing GT28 series snails without an internal waste gate for simplicity, or do i have to lock shut the IWG, which seems a waste to me on new turbo, as it would be an added feature that i dont need?
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I see you all use external wastegates on your builds, and seem to use large car sized turbo's. Is the reason for the EWG that the internal ones can't flow enough gas past the turbine to control boost, or is it for packaging/ ease of installation?



both. also, because most of the time you need to re clock the turbo to get it to fit, the stock actuator doesnt line up with the wg arm.


stevo as b4 wrote:

And secondly what do you do with the internal waste gate to keep it closed or do you remove them and or weld up the turbo housing?


i used lockwire.



stevo as b4 wrote:
Can you get roller bearing GT28 series snails without an internal waste gate for simplicity



you can get anything if your willing to pay for it.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Erm can i ask you turbo guys a question at the risk of an off topic?

I see you all use external wastegates on your builds, and seem to use large car sized turbo's. Is the reason for the EWG that the internal ones can't flow enough gas past the turbine to control boost, or is it for packaging/ ease of installation?

And secondly what do you do with the internal waste gate to keep it closed or do you remove them and or weld up the turbo housing?

I'm asking as i want to upgrade to a ball bearing turbo on my car soon, but all the turbo's i see for sale have an IWG as std. My car has an external one fitted, and i can't really be bothered to change the manifold or blank it off. Can you get roller bearing GT28 series snails without an internal waste gate for simplicity, or do i have to lock shut the IWG, which seems a waste to me on new turbo, as it would be an added feature that i dont need?
What car is it fella? as all gt 30s have no internal wastegate so would be perfect
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Erm can i ask you turbo guys a question at the risk of an off topic?

I see you all use external wastegates on your builds, and seem to use large car sized turbo's. Is the reason for the EWG that the internal ones can't flow enough gas past the turbine to control boost, or is it for packaging/ ease of installation?



Internal gates which are not ported struggle to control boost creep on bikes. Some good quality kits (like MCExpress) do use them though, to good effect.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a Rover 220 turbo, thats been fitted with the T28 turbo from a Nissan 200SX S14. the specs are:
(46.6mm /60.1mm), 62 trim turbine (53.8mm/41.7mm) in a 0.64 A/R T25 housing.

I don't mind having to fit a turbo and blank off shut the IWG arm, as that is how it's been done on my car, but i thought it would be simpler and look neater if i could get a new turbo without a wastegate fitted, as it's one less thing to have to worry about?

I certainely wouldn't want to pay £££'s extra though just to lose the IWG system, and as Chris said it's maybe not economically viable if thats the case?
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
It's a Rover 220 turbo, thats been fitted with the T28 turbo from a Nissan 200SX S14. the specs are:
(46.6mm /60.1mm), 62 trim turbine (53.8mm/41.7mm) in a 0.64 A/R T25 housing.

I don't mind having to fit a turbo and blank off shut the IWG arm, as that is how it's been done on my car, but i thought it would be simpler and look neater if i could get a new turbo without a wastegate fitted, as it's one less thing to have to worry about?

I certainely wouldn't want to pay £££'s extra though just to lose the IWG system, and as Chris said it's maybe not economically viable if thats the case?
Mine is just a garret t28 like yours fella Wink what type exhaust outlet does yours have? mine is modified and has a pipe welded from the standard wastegate to fit the external one
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pete.

Are you running the same type of turbo on your bike?
The exhaust side of my turbo has a 5bolt flange and a tubular steel 2.75" downpipe leading into a 2.5" section to where the cat would have been fitted. The EWG is fitted to a welded on bit of pipe and flange on the exhaust manifold just before where the turbo bolts to it. I assume it's a cast iron pipe, as thats what the manifold is made from.

I also noticed that some of the ball bearing type turbos have a V-band? which looks like a different way of connecting the exhaust downpipe to the charger, which i not keen on changing as id need a new downpipe then as well.

Do you know if any hybrid turbo companies could re-build my existing turbo into a ball bearing one, or is it best to buy a brand new one if it's nearly the same price?

I've also been told that the T28 from the Nissan is only reliable to 15psi, but some people have said it can run at 17-18psi without getting damaged or breaking up, does that sound ok?
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Hi Pete.

Are you running the same type of turbo on your bike?
The exhaust side of my turbo has a 5bolt flange and a tubular steel 2.75" downpipe leading into a 2.5" section to where the cat would have been fitted. The EWG is fitted to a welded on bit of pipe and flange on the exhaust manifold just before where the turbo bolts to it. I assume it's a cast iron pipe, as thats what the manifold is made from.

I also noticed that some of the ball bearing type turbos have a V-band? which looks like a different way of connecting the exhaust downpipe to the charger, which i not keen on changing as id need a new downpipe then as well.

Do you know if any hybrid turbo companies could re-build my existing turbo into a ball bearing one, or is it best to buy a brand new one if it's nearly the same price?

I've also been told that the T28 from the Nissan is only reliable to 15psi, but some people have said it can run at 17-18psi without getting damaged or breaking up, does that sound ok?
aah mine is the bb one with the vband type exhaust,,, a t28 will run a good 25psi no problem,,, i run mine at 10 as its all i need as will lift the front wheel in every gear Smile try a company called turbonetics i have used them many times when i had my old renault 5 and other cars
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do believe the GT28R is a direct replacement for the T28 off a S200. They even come with the 3-bolt compressor outlet to bolt to the Nissan up-pipe.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'll look into the GT28R turbo then and think i'll ring turbonetics for some advice. I assume It would be a Genuine Garrett turbo, as I know other companies like HKS make T28 style turbo's as well. I'll ask then if they can do one without a wastegate built in as well.

I'm not desparate, as the turbo is not knackered completely, but I want to change it before it gives problems. It's useful to know that I can safely go a bit higher than 15psi if I want to with a T28 or GT28 turbo, and not overstress or overspeed it.

I suppose a bike is a much more stressful environment for a turbo than a car, because of the much bigger rev range and faster throttle response than in a car engine?
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