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Carbs - meer mortals can fix
Fi - You need a big pile of expensive diognostic equipment and a degree in neuclear physics
Generally i think fi is allot more efficient (and therefore powerfull) but can make powerdelivery in some cases very slightly delayed or jumpy..
Have a good read though those links there some really interesting things on there, epsecially the 2/4 stroke engine differences, brakes and clutches lots of stuff.. all very handy to know  ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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It was on tele sometime, that Carbs actually deliver the mixture smoother to the engine than fi. Can't remember the whole thing but something about how the slide is the perfect shape or something.  ____________________ is that it |
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Hi
Fuel injection is simpler than carbs really. Easier to design, but harder for someone to debug without the correct equipment.
No reason a fuel injected engine should not be as smooth as a carbed one. Trouble is that fuel injection is often added to get round emisions rules and that means pulling various tricks. For example on a closed throttle from higher revs a carb will still flow some fuel to the engine, and this will result in a smoother transition to an open throttle. However an injected engine will often cut the fuel totally while the throttle is closed, saving fuel and reducing emisions but making the power come in with a bit of a jerk when you open the throttle again.
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| Quote: | Ah, that explains allot, so haveing the ecu remaped would cure these "quirks" but perhaps have you failing an mot on emissions? |
True. some aftermarket ecus you can switch between fuel maps, ie one for mot, one for road fuel, one for race fuel, all giving optimum fueling for each senario. ignition timing can also be "mapped" but thats another story.
i though fi rule, and carbs suck, but some points raised about carb are quite vaild.
still rather have fi though, cant get blocked,doesnt need adjustment, more accurate, etc etc etc. |
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most of this applies to modern computer-controlled fuel injection, FI is just easier to make computer controlled ____________________ "There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them - but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one. That is why they are dangerous."
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 21 years, 205 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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