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i got a PDF manual if you want a copy
PM me if you do
starter motor is held onto the engine with 2 bolts (one has the eart for the engine on it) and the motor is held together with 2 bolts.
carbs strip and clean them, for just getting it started i would suggest plugging the vacuum tube and using a wasching up liquid bottle as a small prime tank until you can either replace or clean the origanal tank. 1 3/4 turn on the pilot screw is stock setting
brakes, strip clean and rebuild the calipers, just had to to do my rear, road salt got in behind the gatter style dust seals and caused binding of the piston and thus the brake as a whole - there are no short cuts with this - as i have heard people say before, the bike doesnt have to go, but it will have to stop ____________________ Current rides - 2016 Triumph Street Triple Rx, 1994 Suzuki Bandit 400 VM, TGB 204 Classic 125cc
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| haroman666 |
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Before you mucking about getting the starter motor sorted and then end up scoring the bores of the engine, pour a wee bit of oil down each spark plug hole into the cylinders, then take the generator cover off and turn the engine over by hand.
If it's seized then you may want to re-consider whether to go ahead with the project.  ____________________ The mistresses: 2000 Honda CBR600f, 2000 Honda VTR1000 |
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| Alpha-9 |
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Clicking is low battery.
5 years of being sat I wouldn't have tried to start it straight away, drain the tank, clean the carb, check the oil etc
The risk is that the tanks full of rust and shit and it's now in the engine, but as the starter didnt do shit it wouldn't have turned over I guess
What haroman said, he's a good lad that one  ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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Oh Alpha don't... You'll make me blush!  ____________________ The mistresses: 2000 Honda CBR600f, 2000 Honda VTR1000 |
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| Teflon-Mike |
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| Alpha-9 wrote: | Clicking is low battery. |
No.. clicking solenoid is solenoid clicking....
Means that the relay contacts have been thrown.
WHY anything else may happen or not, is an entirely open question.
If starter dont turn...
1/ Engine siezed
2/ Starter siezed
3/ Starter brushes buggered
4/ Starter leads not connected
5/ Bad earth from starter
6/ Battery Charge too low to supply necessary current to turn starter
Could be any of the above reasons; not necesserily in order typed, and possibly a few more I cant remember off the top of my head.
As harmon...
Correct procedure.
1 - Remove spark plugs
2 - pour a teaspopon full of oil through each one to lubricate bores and piston rings before tyrying to make them move.
3 - Remove generator cover - and GENTLY try working the crankshaft round with a spanner or socket on the flywheel bolt.
IF the crank turns..... gently work it round througha few more cycles, add a litte more oil to teh bores and make sure its worked round.
4 - Plugs still out... try cranking on the starter. By pass the solenoid and normal electrics all together. Get a (charged) car battery and a pair of jump leads. DO NOT leave the batteri in the car with the engine running to keep the battery topped up; difference in regulator voltage and mechanism can see car alternator FRY bike regulator and / or other associated componentry!
Neg terminal to good earth point on bike frame / engine
Pos terminal; clip something thick and metal 'like' a big screwdriver in the loose end crock-clip; lift rubber instlation from thick supply lead terminal, and touch screwdriver to it, to put amps straight on the battery.....
- if you see smoke. STOP. Either the starter's windings are shorting out, or the starter is jammed.
- if you dont get motion- the connections you have made are no good; the starter is completely dead, or as like as not, teh brushes are buggered. Investigate starter motor.
- If starter cranks engine... then you are onto a winner.... try it through the bikes electrics see what you get.
Its all simple, IF you follow stuff through the logical chain of cause and effect, looking at each link, NOT looking at the sludge in the petrol tank, wondering why the taile light dont work, and whether thats becouse you have changed the spark-plug.... which is not an uncommon kind of aproach, but the sort of voodoo fault-finding that far too many DIY mechanics apply, and get frustrated either fixing stuff by pure fluke, or going round in circles never fixing anything! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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