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i2ico
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Honda CG 2004- whats the largest rear tyre size ? Reply with quote

Hi everyone, Very Happy

Ive been looking into purchasing a larger rear tyre for my Honda CG 2004, and looking for advice from any other people who have had experience with this or the knowledge.

Manufactor states tyre size: 90/90 x 18

Ive looked on this forum and found the rear rim is: - 1.85 x 18

Im not looking to go crazy, just abit more meat on the tyre, both for cosmetic and a bit more grip.

How big can I go?

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick with the standard sizes, but go for Michelin Pilot Sporty tyres. Larger tyres will probably reduce your speed and affect handling in a bad way on a CG.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 4" on the rear of my cg. But it only just fit, and when I say that, I meant it did rub the subframe as was literally 2mm from the brake torque arm. So I'd suggest 3.5".

Saying that though, the better tyres for that size rim seem to be in the 3" range.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 110/90-18 on the back I had to make spacers for the rear brake torque arm Though it feels much more stable now
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick with the standard size - it's that size for a reason.

Buy the best quality rubber you can afford and run at recommended pressure; you'll achieve nothing other than messing up the handling by fitting a bigger tyre.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricklincs45 wrote:
Stick with the standard size - it's that size for a reason.

Buy the best quality rubber you can afford and run at recommended pressure; you'll achieve nothing other than messing up the handling by fitting a bigger tyre.


Not true. My cg 125 has been much more stable now I've put a fatter rear tyre on
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personal opinion - I'm fairly sure Honda knew what they were doing when they spec'd tyre size.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, thanks, info taken!

Ill go for the 90/90 -18 M/C 57P reinf. Pirelli City Demon
As the front is same model.

Am i right that 90/90 is 3.00 in metric? or close too.


Yeah my rear wheel had a new tyre put on by dealership,"vee rubber" some thai cheap tyres (VRM015-2.75), feels skittish in wet, and doesnt give me confidence in the corners.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

3.00-18 continental conti is a good tyre aswell had these before

And it's roughly the same
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Std fit. Michelin Sporty are all you need. Tunz of grip and live for years.
You can't get enuf power down to the tyres to damage them much. Smile

I put them on our CG and it goes like fuck now. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pilot Sportys are MUCH better than City Demons! Amazing tyres.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently fitted 90/90-18 Metzeler ME22, loads of grip from day 1. The only question mark might be how soft the rubber appears to be. They quote a life of only around 4,000miles and MAY be more prone to puncture, but this is just guesswork compared to the concrete that they replaced.

But so much grip and £32 from moto-tyres.co.uk

Pilot Sporty get good reviews everywhere also.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again guys lol

Your absolutely right haha, got to be the Pilot Sportys!

Even the "Honda CG125 Owners Club" recommended these tyres.

Plus only £4 difference in price compared to Pirelli demons.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMCpro wrote:
ricklincs45 wrote:
Stick with the standard size - it's that size for a reason.

Buy the best quality rubber you can afford and run at recommended pressure; you'll achieve nothing other than messing up the handling by fitting a bigger tyre.


Not true. My cg 125 has been much more stable now I've put a fatter rear tyre on


No reason for it to be any more stable. Just in your head Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 22 Jan 2013    Post subject: Chain jerk Reply with quote

While I got some good technical minded people here, before I start a new post lol.

My rear chain seems to be jerking?

Please see video:
https://youtu.be/Nr4eml8yo_E

Is this normal..

Could it be a stiff link?
Rear wheel alignment?
Sprockets?
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 22 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slack chain, bent subframe

Stretched probably.
I'd change chain and sprockets if they're fucked Thumbs Up

Tighten the slack to spec first if you haven't...doesn't look like it
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 22 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Alpha, looks like chain is banjaxed. Make sure you change chain and sprockets together - no point putting a new chain on worn sprockets; old sprockets will knacker a new chain.

If your bike is more than four years old, I'd change the rear wheel cush drive rubbers while it's all apart; those rubbers help take some of the shock out of the transmission and help make chain and sprockets last a bit longer.

Good idea to have a look at rear brake shoe wear/condition too while it's all apart - and to lube the pivot pin that goes through the rear brake plate - they have a tendency to seize-up over time. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 22 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the video looks perfect, thats what single cylinder bikes do. Mine does it far worse, and that was with a correctly set, lubed, brand new chain and sprockets.

Without some revs to make it smoother, the chain jerk would stall bike at idle and looks a lot more violent than yours.



Tire size... just get a good brand. my 125 has 110 front and 140 rear, and cheap tires are just as bad.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
No the video looks perfect, thats what single cylinder bikes do. Mine does it far worse, and that was with a correctly set, lubed, brand new chain and sprockets.

Without some revs to make it smoother, the chain jerk would stall bike at idle and looks a lot more violent than yours.



Tire size... just get a good brand. my 125 has 110 front and 140 rear, and cheap tires are just as bad.


Awesome, thanks kramdra,

Yeah my does get abit violent sometimes haha, when on the stand it rocks.

Will check the sprocket and chain tension as well in case!

What 125 do you have?
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMCpro wrote:
ricklincs45 wrote:
Stick with the standard size - it's that size for a reason.

Buy the best quality rubber you can afford and run at recommended pressure; you'll achieve nothing other than messing up the handling by fitting a bigger tyre.


Not true. My cg 125 has been much more stable now I've put a fatter rear tyre on


I expect that is down to the fact that you've put new aftermarket rubber on rather than the size of the tyre. A new tyre will always feel better than an old one, especially an old Thai OEM tyre made of bakelite.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Speed rating j Reply with quote

Update, Just checked the Vee rubber the dealership put on, speed rating "J" Shocked Embarassed Sick

62 MPH!!!

I've been doing 70+ MPH

Any give on these ratings or is it strictly abide by these rules lol


Going to wait till summer, if it ever comes to change tyres Cool
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol max speed for rubbers?
First i've heard of that, weird Laughing


As for the jerky chain, it will be more jerky with no load also, it's when you ride it counts
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
lol max speed for rubbers?
First i've heard of that, weird Laughing


As for the jerky chain, it will be more jerky with no load also, it's when you ride it counts


Duh, all tyres are speed rated. Z rated is 150mph+ They now do Z+ rated tyres up to 200mph.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick with the standard size tyres but get Michelin pilot sportys, that what I'm running on my 07” cg and it has so much more grip than the rubbish Pirelli city demons
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,
What size Michelin sportys your running 90/90?

I also found that, for example my pirelli city demon, the fr tyre is 2.75 from the inner wall and expands to 3.00 to the outer wall.

So there is no true tyre measurement.!?!?!? Evil or Very Mad

So xz130 do you know the true size of your sportys outer tyre?



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Stick with the standard size tyres but get Michelin pilot sportys, that what I'm running on my 07” cg and it has so much more grip than the rubbish Pirelli city demons

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