Looking into naked bikes...Cb600?

[EazyDuz]

As title says, i've been looking into naked bikes as they are some of the very few styles i really like the look of. I'm not in a rush to get one as i havnt used the 535 enough yet (shit summer, shit winter and now shit spring). Basically looking for:

Budget up to £2300 max
Does at least 45mpg
Cheap insurance (for example my 535 costs £220 a year thats with no no claims, so looking for similar regarding insurance costs)


Been looking at the Cb600. Totally new to this type of bike, and as i understand it, all of them after year 2000 are fuel injected right? Are there many differences regarding performance/reliability between carbs and FI?
Also, when doing valve clearances do most of these kind of bikes require shims as apposed to the locking nut/screwdriver job i'm used to?

Lastly i've looked at SV650's but very few of them are without the fairing at the front. I much prefer the round (cruiser style) headlight, like this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SV-650-/300723851716?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item460489d1c4

Are they easy enough to convert like that?
Thanks
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[That_Hornet]

Better off buying on nake rather than semi then converting.

CB600's are amazing bikes.

One of the best engines to work on imo. Pre 2003 have small tanks 16L and small wheel 16' front.

2006 > have FI

Sv's have more tourque. But for build qualtiy and reliabiltiy and genral uuser friendlyness id go for the hornet.

Jack (slightly bias)

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[Kierran]

Youll need to watch out with the hornet if u are particularly broad at the shoulder and have large hands the bike is uncomfortably narrow for me
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[That_Hornet]

[stonesie]

If you look at SV's then get one that was made as a naked, they have a different riding position to the S models with lower pegs as well as the higher handlebars. My SV650S averaged 62 mpg over 3K miles and they do sound nice with plenty of popping on over run between 3-4.5K and even recorded a high of 78mpg (that was granny riding though, on a charity ride I ended up marshaling the 125's... Nice relaxing day really)


Add the Street Triple to your test ride list, just because

I have seen a lot said about Hornet's having a sub 100 mile tank range on here.

[EazyDuz]

Ah so one like this then:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Suzuki-SV-650-Y-Other-645cc-/271175262982?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3f234e2306


Though i did have a Suzuki GZ125 (2005) and i cant say i was that impressed with its build quality...
The CB to me looks and sounds better (based on youtube vids) and i'd imagine has better build quality too.
Street Triple seems to be over budget. Are there any other bikes to consider?
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[Kierran]

I got 68 miles on friday out of half a tank. Pushing hard the first 34 and sitting between 60 and 70 the way back because i wasnt sure of the remaining range and had left my card in the house. Dont find the foot pegs the worst bu the stock gap between the left peg and the clutch is tiny. The bike just seems like it was made for small people!
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[Kierran]

Can always consider the er5/6n
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[EazyDuz]

[Slacker24seve...]

[EazyDuz]

Thanks for the replies.
Regarding tank range, not an issue. I'm used to the 100 miles before flicking reserve on my current bike...any bike with a longer range than that is a bonus
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XJ6-N?

Come look at mine
It's mine though
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[anthony_r6]

I thought Hornet's became FI quite a bit later on than 2000. Wiki seems to suggest >2007 are FI.

The Hornet is a great bike, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them to be honest.
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[That_Hornet]

The hornets became FI in 2006 with the naked modle that styled the 'same' as the old. It round headling etc but with USD forks. Then they changed the whole style to the new sharp one.

2000> Had 17@ front and the 2003 > had bigger tank

I have always had 98 - 99, the 16inch isn't as bad as some say, just something to get used to. But tire choice is shit.

I got 120miles out of mine on motorways. round town i can avrage 100 if im lucky.

If im riding like i usually do its 70-80 before i hit reserve.

Jack

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https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=267868



And for what it's worth, I'm rather a broad shouldered sort, and I've never thought it too narrow a fit?
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[EazyDuz]

Ah ok.
Well im about 11 stone 10, not a big bloke, so should be fine.
Was hoping for FI but if the carbs are good on the CB then thats alright as well.
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[bikertomm]

Assume you've seen the thread I made like a week ago?

Loads of decent info given in there

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=267929
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[EazyDuz]

[dannymassive]

Have you considered a CBF600? Old hornet "naked" shape with the new hornet "FI" rather than carb
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[_Iain_]

Bandit 600?

Significantly cheaper to insure than a hornet i found & also better on fuel. Mine costs £270 a year to insure TPFT, with ride other bikes, helmet and leathers, personal injury, legal cover, 30 days overseas and a load of other stuff i cant quite remember. Thats with 1 years NCB at 23 in a shit postcode, 3 points & a fault accident within the last year.

Also, as everyone seems to have one theres no hassle in finding parts on the shelf as and when you need em locally - they're also exeptionally easy to sell due to being popular. They come with a gay half fairing, or a round headlight & it takes approximately 30mins & £50 to convert it to a naked model. Very comfy, equally happy on the morning commute as the weekend rag around the lanes. Realy is the jack of all trades imo.

Avoid FI if at all possible as home mechanics become difficult, wiring becomes complex & at £400+ for a fuel pump in event of failiure it's all well and good till it breaks, Oil cooler hoses are prone to rotting & munching engines so check that they're in good shape & if rusty budget for changing em. Exhaust systems also rot like nobodys buisness at the join between link pipe & manifold. Can be repaired, but can also cost £250 for a new manifold if not dealt with in time.

£2k gets a low mileage minter.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-GSF-600-BANDIT-2001-/330895513942?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d0ae8d956#ht_1110wt_1141

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-Suzuki-GSF-600-S-BANDIT-Excellent-Condition-Full-Service-History-Low-Milage-/300877676775?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item460db500e7#ht_1086wt_1249
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[EazyDuz]

The Blandit does nothing for me unfortunately, it just reminds me of the 'toy bike' you got in a cracker/cereal box as a kid
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[_Iain_]

Eh?

Its a generic middleweight naked lol, looks wise its 90% the same as any of the others. I do sometimes wonder how much of the whole "blandit" thing is everyone on here chipping in to be cool & stuff - not an actual opinion based on owning, or even riding one for that matter!

Much like the "buy a YBR" and "dont de-restrict your moped" mob.

Definately avoid the hornet/cbf if looking for decent MPG as its a detuned CBR motor & thirsty.

ER-6n? Fazer?
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