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 Posted: 07:59 - 29 Apr 2013 Post subject: Help choosing a tourer |
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So following our recent (and sore) trip to Wales, me and the missus have decided that we need a dedicated tourer as going two up on an R6 just doesn't cut the mustard for any kind of two up distance riding.
The thing is, I don't have clue where to start with looking for a suitable tourer.
The bike would need to be comfy enough for two people, upright, large tank capacity and part faired at least if possible. It also needs to be big enough to carry the kitchen sink, as let's face it, women never travel light.
I quite like the look of adventure bikes.
Our budget could probably stretch to £2000-£2500.
Any advice would be appreciated  ____________________ Sold: 2003 satin black Yamaha R6
Current rides: 2006 blue Triumph Sprint ST 1050, 2003 Yamaha WR450F |
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| fox_uk wrote: | | ##Paddy## wrote: |
How much touring are you doing? If I was looking at serious all over Europe, that BMW would be ideal, as would a Pan.
If it was what I'm doing, Spain for a week or 2, gentle bimbles then either keep your current or grab something less GRRR and more AAHH like a 600F or Thunderace. |
Im planning on ramping it up. We plan on doing a fair bit of touring over the summer months, so I'd rather do it in comfort.
The R6 is great for a weekend blast but it seriously limits us when you factor in storage, comfort and tank range.
I was swaying toward an adventure as it would be a bit more viable to get off the beaten track than a thorough bred tourer. Although I love the look of the pan. Armchair on wheels  |
If you want a comfortable tourer, plan on doing 2 up and still get off the beaten track a bit, the BMW.
The adv bracket is wide and will cover off roaders that can do road and 2 up no so comfortably, to comfy tourers that can do very limited gravel like the multistrada and v strom and some where in between like the super tenere.
The super ten, v strom and other soft roaders are far heavier.
The BMW is a comfortable pillion bike, even off road, so my pillions tell me. I easily do 800+ km days on it. and have done it with pillion and luggage.
The BMW does not like sand or mud though. ____________________ 2011 KTM 990 Dakar
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I run a bike accommodation and touring business here in France, my main bike is an 01 FJR1300 with more than 100,000 miles on the clock and it is a peach, I do about 200 miles a day 5 to 6 days a week for about 6 months of the year and have no comfort issues with this bike, love is so much I have a second FJR1300 on a 54 plate. I reccon you can pick up a 2001/02 bike for about 2.5k.
many of the adventure bikes are capable tourers but you are going to be paying for them unless it is an old mid range bike, I also have a Guzzi Stelvio which is a hoot great for scratching and perfect for 2 up riding, but because the exhaust is on the upper side it does half the pannier space on one side...
You can pick up some Pan 1100 for a good price or event he mid range Deauville for decent money and they are both fair tourers but not sporty.
there is no real answer though as we each look for diferent things in a bike so go shopping, do some riding on demonstrators and see what you like.
I recommend the FJR though 2 up loaded you cannot beat it for pulling power and sporty mixed touring.. we did Turkey & Back on my 01 back in 2006 check out the report at www.whereistonynow.co.uk/tour2cure.htm ____________________ RidersRest Bikers only B&B in the beautiful Central Massif - France
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Thanks for all the great recommendations guys.
I guess I should get out there and try and get some test rides before I take the plunge on any particular bike. ____________________ Sold: 2003 satin black Yamaha R6
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| fox_uk wrote: | So following our recent (and sore) trip to Wales, me and the missus have decided that we need a dedicated tourer as going two up on an R6 just doesn't cut the mustard for any kind of two up distance riding.
The thing is, I don't have clue where to start with looking for a suitable tourer.
The bike would need to be comfy enough for two people, upright, large tank capacity and part faired at least if possible. It also needs to be big enough to carry the kitchen sink, as let's face it, women never travel light.
I quite like the look of adventure bikes.
Our budget could probably stretch to £20000-£25000.
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The goldwing is probably the best equipped for taken a woman touring, but so is travelling by QE2. I always fancied the FJR1300. Shaft drive, hard luggage and plenty of power too. My budget is somewhat limited so I currently have a banditGT which I have been all round britain on. Up to 50mpg, even at motorway speeds isnt bad and I find it comfortable and well up to long distances but service intervals are 4000 miles, which is abysmal. I never had to do 2 up touring however. ____________________ I am usually naked when posting to this forum. |
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A guy at Rivington at the weekend was singing the praises of the BMW for two up touring, certainly sold it to me, if I was after that kind of thing. I think he must have thought I was Mr Yaigis pillion At least I got on my bike whilst he was still watching
Here's one to throw into the mix - would you not be more comfortable with no pillion, ie, get the missus to get her own bike?!  ____________________ What would you do in life, if you knew you could not fail?
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I ride two-up all the time nowadays. Mrs of almost four years loves riding pillion, but has no interest in riding herself, so I've gradually switch from a sports tourer (K1200S) to an adventure type (1200GS) to a proper tourer (R1200RT). The RT works brilliantly two-up, even fully loaded with luggage, and is still fun in the twisties.
They're not so much fun one-up as a sports bike, but it's horses for courses.
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After much deliberation, I've decided I am going to sell the r6 to fund a new bike. I decided that I will probably end up getting a trail bike as well as a tourer, to satisfy my urge to off road.
As I am getting rid of my sports bike, I thought a sports tourer would probably be better.
VFR vtec anyone?
Cheers ____________________ Sold: 2003 satin black Yamaha R6
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The VFR is heavy and sluggish to turn - you'll find it a pig compared to the R6. But I expect it's still much better than a full dress tourer.
VFR VTEC seat is fairly hard, despite being thick enough to leave almost no room underneath. Pillion comfort is better than being perched on an R6 I'd expect, but not nearly as comfortable as a proper tourer. But I've never been a pillion on my own bike.
It's a fairly comfy bike for long distances on the motorway. It's a lot less pleasant going through towns. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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i've had a vtec for 4 years and am in no rush to change it as it does everything i want from a bike (last bike was a R1). i use it all year round for commuting,scratching ,rallies and touring . build quality and reliability is excellent. i did change the seat for a Sargent seat which is great. 400 miles a day and my ass was fine and ready for next day. panniers , top box and tank bag which doesn't affect handling too much mean i can carry more than enough stuff and the mrs says the pillion perch is fine. mine is an early vtec and when it cuts in at 7000 rpm theres sometimes a wee "jump" but you get used to it.it can be a bit heavy when fully loaded but what bike doesn't , i'm a 5'8"shortie and manage fine.i would deffo recommend a vtec as a do-it-all bike.
some vids here...
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