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PostPosted: 17:06 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:07 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Varadero, Honda XR, DT125 which? Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
Which is the toughest? My commute is 80 miles per day there and back I need a machine what can take a lot of abuse.

So roughly 85 mile a day when I have gone to the shops and things.

How much will this be in fuel on a 600CC ? (Keeping my options open). I will be riding it rain or shine I don't care much for servicing other than oil changing it needs to be strong and not leave me stranded.

I like the ones I said plus the street triple.


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PostPosted: 17:28 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The XR is bomb proof, i did 1100 miles in 5 days on mine, mostly dual carriageways at nearly top speed and it didn't miss a beat (mine has nearly 45k on the clock)

My friend has a Varadero 125 and will easily do just as many miles, but it is allot heavier and you cant get your knee down on it Wink BUT you can do around 85 on it which makes cruising on dual carriageways easier as you can keep up with the traffic (XR has between 60-70 top speed depending on the weather)

They both don't require much more than regular oil changes although if the Vara is an electronic sensor speedo it can fail if you don't clean it often.

Doing 1100 miles only cost me £60 in petrol on the NXR (XR) Wink
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those Chinese bikes have a great reputation for reliability for not much money. Cool
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Vara is like a big sofa, it is one of the comfiest 125s you can get Laughing

It has more torque through the rev range, has fairing, has a larger tank, feels a LOT smoother and is just a nicer bike to ride. But i have more fun on my NXR than the Vara.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just grab a 250? Will cruise a bit more comfy than a 125 and be cheaper to buy/insure
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB250 or if you are buying new you can get ninja 300 to go with the R6
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've owned all three of those 125s and for your purposes you want the Varadero.

XR has the best fuel economy and would be best around town but crap top end. Good for around town but too slow for A roads and above.

DT has the best grin factor (good for wheelies and offroad) but worst fuel economy and reliability. Would make a poor long range commuter.

Varadero has the best road presence, good on juice, way above average cruising speed for a four stroke 125 and highly reliable.

Edit: Just realised who the OP is so disregard any of these bikes as they all require wheel spacers... get a pink my little pony bicycle with tassles and stabilizers or just tell everyone you have an R6 and get the bus Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninja 250, can be had for the price of a good Varadero.

I know you don't have a licence, but you might as well buy it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
I want a Varadero but even a ten year old one is over 1200 miles do not matter to me only age but miles do not count in age years.


I have an 07 with 74k

Nothing wrong with it.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your R6 will manage fine.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened to the Korean NOT Chinese bike?
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 13 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hear daelim roadwin 125s are shit hot and the dealers are all awsome Laughing

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jokes aside credit where its due finaly give up on it and get a reliable machine,

_mjs_ wrote:
I've owned all three of those 125s and for your purposes you want the Varadero.

XR has the best fuel economy and would be best around town but crap top end. Good for around town but too slow for A roads and above.

DT has the best grin factor (good for wheelies and offroad) but worst fuel economy and reliability. Would make a poor long range commuter.

Varadero has the best road presence, good on juice, way above average cruising speed for a four stroke 125 and highly reliable.



sound advise but i know what you mean about the varaderos if you are serious and not trolling for once i will suggest

Cb125t (Any of them)

cheap to buy , cheap to run, easy to maintain and if you get a good one and look after it (cleaning and lubing the bits that need it) they run forever

mine tops out on a flat at an indicated 75mph so keeps up on duel carriageways

usual cheap tax and insurance (£17 tax - for me insurance is £80 a year)

fuel consumption is good mine has the twin carb and returns between 85 and 100 mpg but i also have a single carb set up which looses some performance but gets between 90-110mpg

mine had a problem when i bought it with miss matched carbs scored barrels giving low compression (60psi on both cylinders) and a 4 broken teeth on the fourth gear input shaft, it still pulled to (indicated)70mph and never missed a beat

main thing

avoid

125cc and below 2t bikes

knowing you mechanical ability they will not be reliable enough for you
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As people say you've got R6 why don't you check by yourself what mpg you can get? If R6 has similar fuel economy to ZX6R then with your intention to ride it 50-60mph you will probably get about 55 maybe even 60 mpg.

My bike of choice for gutless commuting would be something like CB250/500.. for safety you need a bit more power than 125 can offer.. especially on faster roads.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

HE DOESN'T HAVE A LICENCE OR AN R6

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PostPosted: 09:48 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or any money, stick with the daelim haha, hope that death trap kills you son
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:


All 250s I have seen are old and worn or scooters.

I am not buying new.


So fix up the mythical R6.

JiveBunny wrote:
Also Daelim - 400 pounds anyone.


Pay me 600 and I'll take it away and bury it for you. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£400... pics? Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 14 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate, even me, bodgiest bodge on this forum, would not touch your GayRim Laughing

£400 is a big expectation for the broken chinese korean bike that has been arse fucked by a cactus then dipped in vinegar.

I'd do £100 and a Mars Bar, but that is fucking stretching it. I think your dealership has done superb in even bothering to help you Thumbs Up
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