License question for a mate

[rach125]

So got talking to one of the old boys at work telling him about me getting my license etc. It turns out he used to be a biker and enjoyed restoring classic bikes but since his wife got sick he sort of gave up. Anyways after our chat he had gone home and looked at the back of his license and realised that his bike entitlement had gone!!

Now I'm not quite sure when he passed his test but it was 25+ years ago, and he definatley had a full license, as well as his car license he also had a tractor license which has also gone! He thinks this has happened when he last sent his license away for a change of address. He rang up the license people (DVLA??) who told him that their records didn't go back that far and there was no way of them finding out if he has these entitlements.

It gets more curious.... his father has exactly the same name as him and when he looked through his father's stuff (he's dead) the entitlements had gone onto his father's license!

So basically I'm asking if anyone knows what he can do? Hes really wanting to get another bike as a little project, and obviously wants to be able to ride it at some point!

Thanks for the help guys.

[sidewinder]

best thing i can suggest is to take both licenses and counter parts to a dvla office and see if they can sort it out.they must have records when the licenes were updated and can put 2 and 2 together..

[lihp]

Do his test?
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[Wonko The Sane]

As good as sidewinder's suggestion is, the DVLA have long been known to cock this up.

A few years ago there was a case in the national media of motorbikers loosing their entitlement (and some gaining a car entitlement that they'd never had) or even lorry drivers loosing theirs.

The DVLA response was simply:

We don't make mistakes

closely followed by "send us the pass slip from when you did your test and we'll update your license"

the pass slip being the bit you send in and the DVLA shreds...

[rach125]

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[covent.gardens]

Seem to recall this exact issue being on Watchdog a couple of times.

[Rogerborg]

Sorry, I think he's stuffed.

Salient lesson to never, ever send them a license. Always "lose" it.
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[Walloper]

SO if his father is dead (RIP) he cannot ride a bike or drive a tractor either. So it's a bit of a catch 22.
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[lihp]

Prove that he had the license and not his old man?

If he can't do that, why should you, me, anybody or DVLA believe him? It has never affected him for the past 25 years, so maybe now he just wants a license without having to pay.
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[rach125]

[UnspeedySam]

[lihp]

I have my bike stuff, however, not my car as when I passed the car test you had to send your certificates away to get the license.
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[Shinigami]

when i did my test there was a fella there who'd been a biker for over 20 years, the dvla lost his entitlement, can't remember whether it was from updating to a card licence from paper or change of addy or something and he was having to take the test again.

DVLA are useless tools, they really are
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[Shinigami]

walloper, this fella still rode, he didn't have ANY gap in riding and was known to my instructor and another instructor who were also there.

meh as long as mine doesn't go walkies
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[Walloper]

[Shinigami]

could have been but that's the reason given, didn't feel the need to bother investigating further as it wasn't my licence and I didn't know the guy

Seems to happen a fair bit though

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?119317-Motorcycle-Entitlement-quot-Disappeared-quot-from-my-licence
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[Walloper]

[Nick__C]

Reasons such as this that I will never send my license of to those cretins, god help me if I actually ever legitimately lose it..
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[rach125]

Oh God this doesn't inspire me with confidence. He has sent away both his and his father's license bit says it doesn't look good. Unfortunately he hasn't kept his certificates either. Which brings me nicely on to my next question!
After all this carry on I looked at my pass certificate and saw the examiner has made an error. My middle name is "Alana" n the dozy git has put "Alan!" So should I get it changed, change it myself or just leave it n hope they never fuck up my license!

[Shinigami]

https://www.whattowatch.net/images/19.jpg
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[Stowelly]

surely they have it documented somewhere. cant he do a request for all data they have on him? (think data protection act covers them having to abide by this) then somewhere in it all there will be proof of it