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Fowlersrs
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Yamaha R6 Reply with quote

A popular brand of bike I know but nothing I've ever considered owning, but I've always looked at em and thought I wonder what they're like to ride.

Are they as rediculously quick as they look or is there more too it owning a Yamaha?

Pro's/Cons?
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a test-ride on the 2007 model. A revvy fucknut of a bike that would have lasted a summer before blowing its guts out through the muffler.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a go on an early carbed one. Was nice and smooth, plenty powerful. Not too aggressive riding position (compared to my GSXR).

Would have one myself.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
I had a test-ride on the 2007 model. A revvy fucknut of a bike that would have lasted a summer before blowing its guts out through the muffler.


There not known for reliability problems though are they? I like the look of some of the special edition paint schemes they do, just looking for tips from people like yourself who have had a taste!
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Had a go on an early carbed one. Was nice and smooth, plenty powerful. Not too aggressive riding position (compared to my GSXR).

Would have one myself.


When did they shift to Fuel injection? Early naughties??!
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:
Snorty wrote:
Had a go on an early carbed one. Was nice and smooth, plenty powerful. Not too aggressive riding position (compared to my GSXR).

Would have one myself.


When did they shift to Fuel injection? Early naughties??!


2003.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There not known for reliability problems though are they? I like the look of some of the special edition paint schemes they do, just looking for tips from people like yourself who have had a taste!


2006 and 2007 machines are known to shit their big end shells/crank bearings when raced unless you do reguarly oil changes. 2008 engine has different parts and doesn't suffer from this.

To be fair, most reliability problems are likely to be from abusive previous owners with them..
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:44 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you've ridden before / currently to a large extent, but yes they're quite quick as with most of the 600 sports, the newer ones are very nice bikes, as mentioned some of the older early 00's and before ones are prone to problems although not that bad bikes in general.

What year where you interested in specifically
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an '08 for three and a half years; recently replaced it with a cross-plane R1.

What I liked:

* A very distinct powerband: it started to get serious at about 8,000 RPM and went batshitinsane at 11,000 RPM, only falling off 500 RPM before the red line.
* Surprisingly comfortable to ride (with one exception).
* Decent fuel consumption: I never got less than 47 mpg.

What I didn't like:

* Fierce vibration through the grips that sent my hands numb after 30 - 45 minutes. Never suffered numb hands on any other bike...
* Low speed handling wasn't confidence inspiring, and it had a huge turning circle.
* I got fed up with the high-pitched engine note, because it had to be revved if I wanted any sort of real performance.

The R1 seems very tame in comparison, despite being far more powerful.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 29 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you find hopping on the r1 from the r6, i've been contemplating upgrading my zx6 for an r1 in the next year or so but i'm not sure if it might be a bit o.t.t in comparison, or even sluggish for the sort of riding i do day to day.

I do a fair bit of bobbing around town and relaxed country winding, i'm rarely one for opening it up to be honest bar the odd quiet carriageway.

Probably shouldn't have a sportsbike to be honest Laughing

[Hows the fuel consumption on the R1 in comparison by the way if you've noted it]
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

eitematt wrote:
How did you find hopping on the r1 from the r6, i've been contemplating upgrading my zx6 for an r1 in the next year or so but i'm not sure if it might be a bit o.t.t in comparison, or even sluggish for the sort of riding i do day to day.

Bear in mind I'm talking about the cross-plane engined versions: I have no experience of the earlier ones.

I'd never call it even remotely sluggish: it's got more power than I could ever use and loads of low-down torque - something the R6 really lacked. The throttle response at low speeds is rather too sensitive, but the switchable drive modes let you tame that if you need to crawl in heavy traffic. Otherwise the power delivery is very smooth with no distinct powerband like the R6: it tends to leave me thinking not much has happened until I look in the mirrors to see where the car I just overtook is, and realise it's just about out of sight behind me. Laughing

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I do a fair bit of bobbing around town and relaxed country winding, i'm rarely one for opening it up to be honest bar the odd quiet carriageway.

Probably shouldn't have a sportsbike to be honest Laughing

[Hows the fuel consumption on the R1 in comparison by the way if you've noted it]

I wouldn't call it a great bike for narrow or tightly twisty country roads. It's definitely better than the R6 because the suspension is more compliant, I sit a bit more upright and it handles significantly better, but I feel like I'm constantly having to hold it back.

Over the first 1,000 miles the fuel consumption has been around 38 mpg. That'll likely get worse when I start to wring it's neck - as much as I dare... Razz
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks alan

Inclined towards thinking it might be a bit much for my current day to day - tempting as it is still for the odd special ride Twisted Evil

Suprised about the fuel consumption expected worse to be honest. My zx6 averages similar to the r6. 40-50 depending on how pampered it is Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's got a pretty extreme riding position from what ive been told the handling is very track focused. But the 08 onwards model is the best looking supersports 6 if you ask me,that front end looks mean!
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my R6 as a daily ride.
It is definitely more at home on fast A roads than it is in heavy city traffic. It's light though, so I have no problem throwing it around at low speeds.
The engine is definitely more happy at higher revs. The rush you get when it hits the power band is fantastic.
Ergos are something you have to get used to. The later models put you in an even more aggressive riding position due to being very track focused.
I too have suffered numb hands and cramped legs.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As with most 600 sport's they need to be kept on the boil to make significant progress on the twisty stuff.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own a 2003 to 2005 model.
This was the first injection one.

Earlier models were tankslappy...uglier ... less reliable etc.

The latest ones are uncomfortable and mental revvy... no power at all below 10k ..great for track .. crap for road... but look stunning.

My model has good low down pull.. revs a bit if you fancy it (power hitting in at 8k ish is great fun... but best of all its very comfortable to ride.
I went to lemans on it and it was lovely.. and I am an old achey git.

Get the 2003 - 2005 model.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own a 2003 to 2005 model.
This was the first injection one.

Earlier models were tankslappy...uglier ... less reliable etc.

The latest ones are uncomfortable and mental revvy... no power at all below 10k ..great for track .. crap for road... but look stunning.

My model has good low down pull.. revs a bit if you fancy it (power hitting in at 8k ish is great fun... but best of all its very comfortable to ride.
I went to lemans on it and it was lovely.. and I am an old achey git.

Get the 2003 - 2005 model.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
As with most 600 sport's they need to be kept on the boil to make significant progress on the twisty stuff.


CBR600RR has heaps of midrange by comparison. I ran one as a trackbike, not sure I'd fancy one on the road. When you're up in the power it's awesome. Infuriating when you're not.
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